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Here's a shot of the witness marks Todd Jarrett put on our hands. That's Kevin's mitts on the left, then mine, then Say Uncle's. Since I had to hold the camera, it's only my right hand. I have no idea where Uncle's hand was, although I can assure you it was nowhere near my buttocks.

What you can't see, and probably the most important mark, is the one on Kevin's right thumb that is aligned with the one on his left hand.

To do this, Todd had us grip the pistol. He moved the pistol until it was perfect, then placed a mark on our right hand to indicate the exact middle where the pistol should be. Then, he had to bend our left hand down so that the thumb pointed straight out, the fingers were at a 45° angle with the palm flat and to the right. This really, really pulls on the tendons in your hand. He wrapped our left hand around the pistol, placing our thumb along the bottom of the slide. The right thumb rested upon the safety.

With our hands aligned perfectly, he drew lines on our right thumb and left hand to show where they should remain. Once we did this grip, the pistol would pop right back to where it was supposed to be after each shot. Eventually, your grip would move and your shots would take longer as you were hunting for your front sight again. You'd look at your hand and see how much your grip had changed.

It was very, very educational and helpful.

rolled out on Monday, August 25, 2008 7:19 PM
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# re: Can I get a witness? - Breda

Rolled Out On: 8/25/2008 8:51 PM

I think I'd get that tattooed.

# re: Can I get a witness? - Linoge

Rolled Out On: 8/25/2008 9:10 PM

Hell, I know I would, and I hate needles.

Either way, I am definitely going to give that a shot next time I hit up the range... my current grip is obviously not working as well as it should, given my groupings last time around...

# re: Can I get a witness? - Joe

Rolled Out On: 8/25/2008 10:51 PM

You know, I've been reading about this from several of you, and I'm still trying to figure out *exactly* what represents that 'right' spot...

I hope that one of you got this nugget of truth on tape so we can watch it and learn.

# re: Can I get a witness? - Nomen Nescio

Rolled Out On: 8/25/2008 10:54 PM

if it pulls that hard on your tendons, it's by definition not a good hold. it might be a hold that works, yes. but as you noticed, it can't be a hold you can maintain, and it'll be unlikely to be one you can quickly and reliably acquire.

# re: Can I get a witness? - Trebor1415

Rolled Out On: 8/25/2008 11:52 PM

Thanks for the pic.

Someone else posted a pic of the grip showing the non-thumb side. If you have a decent close up of the grip showing the thumb side (the side with the safety) I'd like to see it.

I think I know what TJ is talking about with this grip, but I'd like to see a couple more pics to make sure. Then the question is if I can find this grip for myself without hands on instruction.

Also, if you can comment on why riding the trigger is bad, I'm very interested in that.

I might need to unlearn some of the stuff I've just spent time learning, but I need more info before I decide.

Thanks much. Sounds like a great time, btw. You know everyone is just dying of jealousy...

# re: Can I get a witness? - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 8/26/2008 7:17 AM

Nomen, it pulls simply because I wasn't used to it. After 3 days of stretching my wrist, it now feels natural. And it is without a doubt massively effective. When you shoot, your sight goes instantly back to the target.

Part of the "slipping" comes from a lack of adequate forearm strength, part from not gripping tight enough (Todd kept telling us to grip "20% tighter"), and another part is the tendency to slip back to your old habits. Also, once you get your left thumb pointed (or right if you're left handed), you're going to get more meat in contact with the pistol.

Trebor, riding the trigger is bad because you spend brain power trying to slowly release the trigger right back to the seer. I, probably more than most of the others there, suffered from poor trigger skills, a lot of which came from me trying to ride the trigger forward. With the LDA, you can completely come off with your fingernail slightly grazing the front part of the trigger guard and still maintain perfect control.

I've got a LOT of work on that part alone.

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