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Apparently, a lot of people are giving him shit for the machine gun part of his arguments. He responds quite gracefully

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The solution to 922(o) will have to be political in the end. The fact is, outside the gun community, the concept of privately owned machine guns is intolerable to American society and 100% of all federal judges. If I had suggested in any way — including, by being evasive and indirect and fudging the answer — that machine guns are the next case and this is the path to dumping 922(o) — I’d have instantly lost all 9 justices. Even Scalia. There wasn’t any question of that, at all, going in, and it was confirmed in unmistakable fashion when I stood there a few feet from the justices and heard and saw how they related to machine guns. It was not just my opinion, but one uniformly held by ALL the attorneys with whom we bounced ideas off, some of them exceedingly bright people. Ditto for the people who wanted me to declare an absolute right, like I’m there to waive some sort of GOA bumper sticker. That’s a good way to lose, too, and look like a moron in the process.

Look, I understand that the logic behind any sort of regulation is stupid. I wouldn't hurt anyone with a fully automatic 50 BMG with armor piercing, explosive tipped bullets. But to John and Jane Q. Citizen, they don't see it that way. They're not immersed as we are in the debate and know only the basics. The trick is to educate them, then the law changes will follow, not the other way around.

Joe Huffman uses the term "Gun Niggers" (he uses asterisks, however), and it's the same concept as what we face today as gun owners. While you and I know that a person's skin color has nothing to do with them as a person, do you honestly think that blacks could have gone from slaves to having the full rights associated with citizens such as voting, property ownership, drinking from the same water fountain, etc? As wrong as it was to deny them those rights, they would have never happened had they not done so gradually. It sucks, but reality has a horrible track record for being fair.

There is no way to overturn every gun law in the United States with a single ruling. There is no way to change the perception of John& Jane Q. Public instantly so that they see things our way. I have mentioned before that the battle ahead lies with our neighbors and not our politicians.

I want to get to a point where exercising our rights isn't something that's impeded by the government. I'd love to see automatic weaponry available to the general public. I dream of the day I can purchase a new firearm without having to justify to the government why I need one or that I'm fit to have one. But I'm not the one we need to convince, and I'm not going to get all indignant about machine guns right now because this war is long and hard and we have no kind of "nuclear" option available to us. Hell, we had to nuke Japan TWICE before we got our point across.

rolled out on Thursday, March 20, 2008 1:28 PM
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# re: Alan Gura on machine guns - Gregory Morris

Rolled Out On: 3/20/2008 1:38 PM

Screw machineguns, I just want to be able to buy a suppressor without having to jump through hoops.

# re: Alan Gura on machine guns - Joe Huffman

Rolled Out On: 3/20/2008 1:41 PM

I don't always use asterisks. See my first post on this topic.

# re: Alan Gura on machine guns - mgroves

Rolled Out On: 3/20/2008 2:06 PM

The perfect is the enemy of the good. Principally speaking, I should be able to own a basement full of chain guns. Practically speaking, I can live without a machine gun as long as the rest of my gun rights are intact.

# re: Alan Gura on machine guns - Jay G

Rolled Out On: 3/20/2008 3:00 PM

What irks the ever-lovin' snot out of me is that, realistically, there's very little difference between a fully automatic weapon and a semi-automatic version thereof.

We've all seen the videos of people bump-firing various weapons (including handguns); the magazine/belt capacity of each weapon is the same; what the heck is the magical property of holding the trigger down vs. repeated pulls that warrants such PSH???

But then again, this is the same blissninny mindset that says I can carry a firearm for self-defense but not a switchblade...

# re: Alan Gura on machine guns - straightarrow

Rolled Out On: 3/22/2008 11:00 PM

I just get goddamned tired of ignorant children of ignorant parents led by abusive government believing they have the right to truncate or obliterate my rights.

I am so close to out of patience with them, that I no longer give a damn if they want to move it to a more kinetic arena.

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