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Joe has an interesting post regarding some points on the new totalitarianism that's always just on the horizon.

A friend sent me this link to a video (about 45 minutes long). The synopsis is:

Naomi Wolf on

It not only can happen here, it is happening here.
Mussolini created the blueprint (with inspiration from Lenin), Hitler elaborated on it, Stalin studied Hitler...
Here's how it works (notice how many Bush & Co. is using now.):
1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law

Wolf's conclusion? Impeachment of Bush and Cheney is not enough. Prosecuting (and jailing) them for crimes committed is the only rational solution.

My basic comment was that it was the left's insistence on utilizing the government's power to push their views that is enabling this type of thing to happen. Joe follows up with

I am of the opinion (but I might be easily persuaded) that the "right" is doing most of the enabling, laying the groundwork, etc. and the "left" will be those that actually exercise the authority in a tyrannical manner.

Oddly, I agree with him but I couldn't figure out how that could be. Then it hit me that my "grid" analogy was wrong and that political leanings can be better described by a triangle rather than "left vs. right"

imageHorizontally represents your belief in what is required to maintain social cohesion. Leftwards represents a tendency to socialism where the group is more important and is not necessarily bound by any sort of standard moral code, towards the right it's more geared to either a religious or historical precedent to decide on right or wrong.

Vertically, the bottom represents an authoritarian view (using the coercive power of the state or group) while the top is libertarian in nature where the individual makes his or her own decision.

The corners are easy to define.

The bottom left is total government control with the end goal being equality of outcomes for each and every person. The individual's needs are eschewed in favor of the group. Decisions are made that benefit the group insofar as ensuring that no person has more or less than any other. Sin is anything that betters one person over another while all other morals are fluid.

The bottom right is total government control with the end goal being proper behavior from all citizens. The group's needs are eschewed in favor of maintaining a rigid social structure. Decisions are made that benefit the state itself in its goal to continue to maintain social structure. Morals such as sexual orientation, religious convictions, patriotism to the state (vs. pride), and belief in authority are strictly maintained.

At the apex, you have for all intents and purposes, anarchy. Individuals may do anything they please even if it harms another individual. There is no state, there are no groups, each person is completely independent. There are no moral codes of any sort. Murder, rape, charity, compassion - it's up to you to do as you please.

In and of itself, it's difficult to obtain any of the corners for any period of time. Anarchy devolves almost instantaneously as people group together for protection. Fascism and Totalitarianism will cause resistance and remind people that they have the option to fight back, and they will. Corner Utopias can only exist in books.

The interesting thing that I missed is what happens as we move towards the top of the triangle. When you believe that the individual is king and should be allowed to make their own decisions, the difference between "left" & "right" become almost imperceptible. You can believe that it is more important to distribute your worldly possessions so that everyone has the same or you can believe that God rules the universe and that everyone should go to church 3 times a week, but if you do not require the state or group to force others to believe in what you believe in, it doesn't matter to those who don't share your views.

While pure corners are unobtainable, the problem lies where I've drawn my lines. The upper line is what I aim for. Very little state control, but there is some. I must give up some control to the state, otherwise there'd be very little freedom as the powerful rule the weak. I have no illusions that if everyone was left to their own devices that nobody would try to overpower others. That line is hard to keep in place. It takes work, vigilance, and many times requires you to allow other people the ability to do things you may find distasteful or dangerous. You have to work hand in hand with those you disagree with.

The lower line is where we're headed (and many countries are already there). It's easy for the line to get lower. As it does, the differences between right and left become a chasm. As the difference grows, so does the need to band into groups to wrest power from the other side. The best way to do so is to allow the state more and more power in order to overpower your enemy. Self selection requires adherence to your group in order to maintain power. It's a feedback cycle that is very, very dangerous.

The left wishes to redistribute wealth to force everyone to be equal and ensure you do not harm yourself be it drugs, fatty foods, or lack of exercise. The right wants to control what goes on in your bedroom and subservience to the state itself.

Neither are good for human beings. But like fast food, it's quick and easy even though in the long run it's terrible for you.

Both "sides" are causing the slide down the triangle. I'm up for protecting this country, but we're going a little overboard now. We cannot remove all the risks and the return on investment of our security is not worth the liberty we've lost. I blame the right for that. And the indoctrination into socialism that the left pounds so hard on only makes the belief in authority that much stronger from our children.

The fault lies with those who would use authoritarianism to further their goals, regardless of what those goals are.

How guilty are you?

rolled out on Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:52 PM
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 re: Political triangles - Bullwinkle

Rolled Out On: 3/15/2008 3:47 PM


The left wishes to redistribute wealth to force everyone to be equal and ensure you do not harm yourself be it drugs, fatty foods, or lack of exercise.


Not exactly. The left wishes to redistribute your wealth for the benefit of them and their pals. The bit about being bossy about fatty foods and lack of exercise is just to help you get used to taking orders from them. To soften you up, so to speak.

These days, I'm not sure the right is all that much different.

I'd recommend reading (or re-reading) Orwell's Animal Farm. For a book about politics that can be read and understood in a day, it has no competition.



 re: Political triangles - Tom

Rolled Out On: 3/15/2008 7:12 PM

Not quite sure the chasm towards the bottom is quite right, but it's getting there. If I were forced I'd suggest a diamond shape where the bottom comes back together as well. You still have someone deciding what you can or can't do, no matter what it is. In that regard the left/right differences close up as well. I understand what you're saying and can see it, but I see no difference in the total control from one side or the other...would you rather be shot or hanged? The outcome's the same, you're still dead.

Other then that small difference of opinion I think you're on target. It's also why I dream of overthrowing Cuba if the democrats win this year, Cubans will be given maps to Miami and paddles, as we slide downward towards their comfort factor I'm sure they'd like to risk the journey. Anyone wishing to start over are welcome to come along as long as you're up at the top of the pyramid. Gotta have somewhere to either ride out the storm or start over, and I'm sick of the Ohio winters.

# re: Political triangles - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 3/15/2008 7:37 PM

Actually Tom, if you think about it, the part about needing an internal enemy is important. And although the outcome is different, there is a big difference between being shot and being hung. But you need to get the hangers hating the shooters in order to maintain a facade that "authorizes control".

From the Liberty perspective, you're right. It doesn't matter if it's a jackboot or a Birkenstock smashing your face.

 re: Political triangles - Planter

Rolled Out On: 3/15/2008 11:07 PM

I wandered over here from your comments on Joe Huffman's blog. This is a very interesting twist on the usual 'grid' analogy that I've seen, and which you had started with. I like this a lot.

 re: Political triangles - BugSpray

Rolled Out On: 3/16/2008 12:20 AM

I agree with Tom that the shape would be more of a diamond. The reason for this is as you move downward government control of the individual and the group becomes greater. Loss of individual rights negatively affects the societal group as much as increasing the group influence decreases individuality. Continuing downward both society and the individual lose. Both are increasingly controlled to benefit the ruling elite.
At both upper and lower points society can not exist because either total freedom or total control of the individual won't allow it.
I believe the line you seek would be mid point where the individual has the greatest freedom and the group the most benefits. This is unachievable so the line must constantly shift up and down. The individual must conform to belong to the group but not so much as to become a slave to it.
I came here for some gun porn and found societal evolution instead. Bleah!

 re: Political triangles - Anonymous Hero

Rolled Out On: 3/16/2008 3:40 PM

The more I think about it, the more it seems that the horizontal right-left line is wrong after all. But while the square (individualism on X, authoritarianism on Y) and your triangle (call it statism on Y?) are useful in trying to understand what we think is important in the public sphere of life, I think a vertical line is most accurate: the spectrum of voluntarism, which (like your vertical dimension of what I call statism) combines the important parts of individualism and lack of coercion.

# re: Political triangles - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 3/16/2008 3:45 PM

AH, this, of course is just a simplification overall and is bound to have gaps in the way it defines things.

But honestly, instead of left vs. right, I wouldn't mind Upper vs. Lower being in the lexicon and considering myself a High-Upper ;)

 re: Political triangles - JayF

Rolled Out On: 3/17/2008 4:52 PM

"Control the press"?

Yeah, Bush has done a great job on that.

Why, can you even recall reading ANYTHING critical of Bush in the last few years?

Oh, wait -- there are dozens EVERY DAY.

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