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It's not the Vltor stock, but honestly I couldn't tell the difference. Bushmaster lower, marked in .223/5.56, but oh well.

I'll probably be ordering the upper some time next week from Ko-Tonics. Uncle, damn his black little heart, insists that I (a) go with a railed handguard and (b) get a front sight. I wanted to avoid the railed handguard because I didn't want to get caught in the trap of "Hey, this attachment would be cool. And I just happen to have a place to put it!" It's bad enough I'll be looking into triggers and grips, the last thing I need to worry about is a Swiss Army EBR.

Now, as far as (b) goes... That's a kicker. I can understand that if your batteries die on your sight, your up the proverbial creek. It would be nice to have flip up sights as a backup, and these you can add later as finances permit if you have the proper places to attach them.

The problem I have is that I hate the standard handguards that AR's come with so, for the same price I can get one that's a little nicer. Unfortunately the one I would like requires a low profile gas block which negates the ability to add a front sight on later.

So, this is my dilemma

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Handguards are stupidly priced, especially for the civilian market that doesn't require such high grade precision. It's a barrel shroud, meant to keep your hands from burning and is not, as has been indicated, "A Shoulder Thing That Goes Up". A tube of aluminum shouldn't run $400(*just hyperbole, for the sarcamsilly challanged :), but why oh why can't the generic plastic on at least look decent?

I know me. I'm more pragmatic and prefer function over form, so I'm pretty sure I'm going with Option Number Ugly. Of course, sights are stupid in price too, so by the time I'm actually able to afford one I'll probably also be able to afford a new handguard and gas block anyway, but there's no need to spend any more money than I already am, even if it's down the road.

So, if anyone is looking to upgrade their handguards to the 16 rail, picatinny, titanium, USB powered ones they've had their eyes on and want to offload their functional, decent looking ones, let me know.

rolled out on Thursday, March 13, 2008 12:37 PM
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# re: Half evil - SayUncle

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 1:03 PM

Yankee Hill handguards are not $400. Got mine for $80 here:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/forum.html?b=2&f=142

Need a gunsmith with a special wrench to put them on.

Or try these:

http://www.badgerordnance.com/productgroup.php?id=handguards

Pricey, but does both.

# re: Half evil - Gregory Morris

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 1:12 PM

Cool. I kinda like those badger ones. They seem a little more practical.

# re: Half evil - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 1:44 PM

Uncle, right now I'm over my budget as it is since going with the Ko-Tonics, so I gotta cut corners for the time being. I'll just get the Grunt model with the flip sight. I'll still need a rear sight, but again, when the Mrs. isn't looking!

Greg, the badgers are nice looking and have that M41-A Pulse Rifle (from Aliens) feel to them.

When all is said and done, though, what I truly want is a rifle that can put lead down range accurately. That's the most important thing to me.

# re: Half evil - Gregory Morris

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 3:02 PM

Well, you could save money by going with 5.56 instead of 6.8.... heh. Doesn't Kotonics put together customer uppers? Are they all that much more to say "I want handguard A with sight B"?

# re: Half evil - DirtCrashr

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 3:06 PM

All's I know is that they should be free-floated. Guys in my club have the round tubular ones but they never quite grabbed my eye.
On my CMP upper I have the standard looking ones but free-floated.
I'm with Uncle on this. My SBR upper has a SWS quad rail that is very solidly mounted and doesn't impact point of aim.
If you fill the gaps with plastic ladders you can avoid plastering everything onto it. Besides "everything" costs money which you already pointed out is an issue, and it's an issue with me too and my similarly inclined Mrs...
Anyhow good luck and glad to see you moving forward with this, I'm kinda at a sticking point with my lower. :-)

# re: Half evil - hecate

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 5:47 PM

I also like the quad rail. Might as well admit up front that accessories will be added no matter what.

At least with an ACOG I don't need to worry about batteries for about 12.32 years.

# re: Half evil - Cowboy Blob

Rolled Out On: 3/13/2008 10:10 PM

Heheh. Just looking! (No advice to give; I've got my own AR hankerin' to to satisfy.

# re: Half evil - CTone

Rolled Out On: 3/14/2008 10:53 AM

Free float tubes from YHM are not expensive at all. I put a YHM rifle length 4-rail free float tube (YHM-9636) on my DPMS myself in my basement, no smithing needed. Works great and it covers the low profile gas block too.
What length tube are you looking for? If I had to do it all over again I would go with the YHM free floater without all the rails; you just add the little 1913 pieces that you need. This keeps the circumference of the grip down and doesn't give you the "place to put it" (accessories). If you go with the carbine-length tube (YHM-9431A) it won't cover the gas block, so you can still add the folding sight. The tube is about $80.00 like Uncle said and it comes with one full length rail and the little ones you can order later for cheap.

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