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Not to pick on Timothy per se, but something he said in my comments appears to be a common theme amongst gun-control advocates

Our founding fathers, who had amazing foresight, could not anticipate the military power of future governments, such as our own.

Got that? The Founders were both brilliant and yet still so stupid that they couldn't possibly imagine that we'd evolve or that weapons would improve.

Of course, to believe this you have to buy into the false premise that the Founders wanted us to only be able to repel a government up to a particular size and when it grew too big you just had to don your big girl panties and deal with it.

I guess the problem with us gunnies is that we don't read English very well. When Tench Coxe said "every terrible implement of the soldier", what he actually meant was "only those weapons of the soldier that are small and not very effective since we wouldn't want you to hurt yourself".

Speaking of technological improvements, with guns there really hasn't been much. While communication such as the Internet, cell phones, and TV were not even imaginable by those back when the constitution was written, firearms haven't changed outside of improved reliability. Back then, they had pistols, shotguns, long rifles, and cannons. They were all deadly, just not as well made or reliable as those we have today. The basic design has not changed - a tube that a projectile is forced down via pressure from a propellant.

Regardless, I have yet to find a single instance of any writings by the Founding Fathers that state that there is a limit to what the populace could own. Why would the Founders, who had a distrust of standing armies, allow said armies to be able to over power the militia?

rolled out on Monday, November 05, 2007 9:20 AM
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# re: Idiot savants - Weer'd Beard

Rolled Out On: 11/5/2007 9:40 AM

I dunno about you, Robb, but I think I've taken the Timothy thing as far as it can go.

Personally I think he got rather rude (but odly it never seemed intentional) in the end. But what can I do if we're all "Brainwashed" "Blind" and "Intellectually Arrogant"

Too bad, I thought maybe we could have gotten somewhere. Maybe we did.

I dunno

# re: Idiot savants - SayUncle

Rolled Out On: 11/5/2007 9:57 AM

And, you know, they could not anticipate the internet so free speech on al gore's internets isn't protected. And TeeVee.

And they didn't know how easy electronic surveillance would make snooping so that's gotta pass the reasonableness test.

And, well, you get the point.

# re: Idiot savants - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 11/5/2007 10:04 AM

Weer'd, it's not Timothy directly, he's just the latest person to spew that line. I read it all the time, and while greater minds have tackled the situation, I just wanted to bring it up in my own little corner of the blogosphere.

# re: Idiot savants - straightarrow

Rolled Out On: 11/5/2007 10:43 AM

Sure it is Timothy directly. A brain is a far more dangerous implement than any weapon. He has a duty to use his responsibly. A duty he has failed.

Just because he is repeating what other dangerously bent minds have stated doesn't buy him a pass. He had the duty to winnow out the detritus; to ensure that he tested for logic, morality and intellectual consistency in keeping with the tenets of a free society. He has not done so. It most definitely is Timothy directly. His failure to his duty is not diluted by the number of practitioners of said failure, but multiplied by those numbers.

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