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You do not rise to the occasion in combat, you sink to the level of your training. Do not expect the combat fairy to come bonk you with the combat wand and suddenly make you capable of doing things that you never rehearsed before. It will not happen.

Seen here.

For all the "guns turn people into killers" drones out there, how do you explain this?

You may think that it is easy to kill, that a person only has to walk onto the battlefield and he will become a killer simply because he has been ordered to. The truth is that it is hard to get people to kill. Consider the murder rate, which is only six per 100,000 per year. Millions of people bump against each other every day, many of them depressed, angry, hostile and full of hate, but only six out of 100,000 will kill. Only four per thousand even attempt to inflict serious bodily harm and suffering (aggravated assault) in the average year. How is that?

We learned in World War II that only 15 to 20 percent of the individual riflemen fired their weapons at an exposed enemy soldier. If there was a leader present ordering soldiers to fire, then almost everyone would do so. Likewise, a crew-served weapon, with a gunner and assistant gunner fighting together, almost always fired. But when soldiers were left to their own devices, the vast majority them, on all sides, could not kill.

I've got a few things to mull over for later if I have time, but this is definitely an interesting read.

rolled out on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 4:01 PM
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# re: Quote of the day - It applies to me edition - Rustmeister

Rolled Out On: 8/29/2007 4:25 PM

Good find!

# re: Quote of the day - It applies to me edition - dorkafork

Rolled Out On: 8/29/2007 9:57 PM

Looks like it's from his book, "On Killing". I've heard it's excellent, I seem to remember first hearing about it on Donald Sensing's blog.

# re: Quote of the day - It applies to me edition - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 8/29/2007 10:08 PM

I was offered a copy of a new book of his and I decided to research it a little before accepting. At this point, I'm almost sad I've not read any of his work yet until today.

I'm not 100% I agree with the Video Games = Killers argument, but he has some good points and quite a bit of stuff I want to think about before I dismiss the idea outright.

I like things that challenge my beliefs and force to me consider everything. Keeps me honest.

Unlike some of the anti gun commenters and bloggers we get around these parts ;)

# re: Quote of the day - It applies to me edition - Mike the Army Officer

Rolled Out On: 8/30/2007 12:27 AM

Out of 450 troops we took to Iraq, I only know of 6 in my battalion who even fired at somone on a convoy and only 3 who hit anything. Even under fire, we actively tried NOT to kill anyone unless we were absolutely sure there was no other way (my unit was mostly REMFs, only a few of us got outside the wire and shooting other than in self defense was not our job). There was too great a chance of mowing down kids when putting autofire to a moving target.

I believe the stats. One or two of my troops had a taste for blood, and they were the ones you leave behind. Of course that does not apply to the real infantry/cav/marine killers. I want them to at least have a passing fancy for blood.

BTW, I posted this on "ILOVETROLLINGFORGAYSEXWITHUSSENATORSINAIRPORTBATHROOMSMORETHANYOULOVEYOURGUN". Do you think ATR, the bad man he/she is, will answer?

"Soooo ATR. You seem very confident of your abililty to take on multiple opponents with your bare hands. Are you a former SEAL, SF, Marine Force Recon? Maybe multiple black belts in various deadly martial arts and military combative skills? That is the impression you give, at least.

Mike the Army Officer"

Me, with only one black belt and some experience with shots fired in anger, would rather have gun, knife, kick, punch, throw as options.

# re: Quote of the day - It applies to me edition - Linoge

Rolled Out On: 8/30/2007 3:15 PM

Hell, killing someone with a firearm is such a complicated evolution, I do not really understand how the gun thieves make it seem so commonplace an outcome of firearm ownership. First, you have to have a passing knowledge of how the tool in question operates (I am reminded of the scene in XXX where he pulls the trigger repeatedly to no avail, dives out of the way, the person behind him shoots, and then shows him where the safety is). Then, of course, you have to be able to hit the broadside of a barn with the firearm - no small task, and not at all something that simply comes as an extension of owning the weapon. For the first few times I took my 9mm to the range my accuracy was... well... at least the bullets went the right direction! And then the last step, and the one that probably causes the most problems for people (apart from being able to hit something at a respectable range), is the realization you are about to try to kill or grievously wound another human being. For your average person, that is something that requires a lot of thought, and a lot of drive to get past... hell, I would wager that for the average soldier, it is no small task either (barring a reflexive, "CRAP, he's shooting at me!" kind of thing).

For some odd reason, none of those capabilities are in the packaging that came with my 9mm, and I do not expect them to be in my M1A's box either. Why hoplophobes do is something I simply will never understand...

If buying a knife does not make them want to go out and start slicing up people, and imbue them with the necessary skills and capabilities to do so effectively; why would buying a firearm make me want to go out and start perforating them, with the prerequisite mindset and abilities in tow?

# re: Quote of the day - It applies to me edition - triticale

Rolled Out On: 9/1/2007 7:10 PM

There was an incident in Chicago, maybe 20 years ago, in which a criminal stole a single action Colt from a collector and then attempted to use it in an armed robbery. Imagine his surprise when he discovered that pulling the trigger without having cocked the hammer did nothing, and his intended victim was armed.

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