Rolled Out On: 12/14/2006 3:00 PM

Um... not to pick too many nits, but...


Foot pounds are a measurement of force, as in how many feet a pound would be displaced. Foot pounds already factor in velocity.

A better statement would be

676 Ft/Lbs of force for 180 grams @ 1300 fps.

(grinning, ducking and running)

Rolled Out On: 12/14/2006 3:05 PM

No problem. It was a typo (notice the at @). I'll correct it after I've reloaded.

Rolled Out On: 12/14/2006 3:09 PM

Oh, and to nit pick your picked nits, a 180 gram round would be hucking fuge. Like almost half a pound!

Me? I'll stick with 180 grain, thank you.

Rolled Out On: 12/15/2006 3:00 AM

I'm with you on the wallet.

I guess that's the reason I decided a long time ago that if I ever felt it was necessary to carry a personal weapon I would only do so if I could learn to proficiently use and afford to buy the Desert Eagle Mark XIX .50 AE.

Because, seriously, if you pull that sumbitch out, and you still have to fire it, the sumbitch you're firing it needs that hard of a hit to know to go down.

Me? Sight of a .22 would be enough to get me on the ground. Because, to paraphrase Ron White, I don't know how many shots it'd take to drop me, but I can guess how many they're gonna use...

Rolled Out On: 12/15/2006 11:09 AM

Well, I do have one concern about over penetration. 10mm rounds are quite powerful - they can go through a car door and still have enough force to be lethal. So, if I ever am in the situation where I might have to pull, I have to consider what's behind my attacker as I might hit it as well.

A .50 would do about the same.

Rolled Out On: 12/19/2006 1:32 PM

Get your concealed carry permit, and the need for that three-day waiting period goes away.

Good call on the Sig. My Sig P232 shoots straighter than any handgun I've ever fired, but despite multiple trips to the gunsmith it tends to jam unexpectedly. Really not worth the extra $$, and not a gun you want to stake your life on in a tight spot.

Rolled Out On: 12/19/2006 2:51 PM

BTW: On the .50, I know it'll go through just about everything.

I like to think of Danny Vermin in Johnny Dangerously;
"This goes through armor. And through the victim, through the wall, through a tree outside..."