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So now pledging allegiance to your country is unconstitutional? OK, so I pulled a few words there to sensationalize the issue, a tactic I decry all the time. But the reason I do is going to piss off a lot of my right leaning, Christian friends.

Kids reciting the pledge are mindless drones. They have no idea what they’re saying, no idea the sheer importance of what they say and what it means if they betray that sentiment. In many ways, it’s the same concept as why I have a hard time actually going to church. It’s not God that I have a problem with, it’s the strict schedule of stand up, sit down, pray, sing, pray, sing, sermon, pray, give money, pray & sing, sing, leave that rings hollow to me. Pomp and circumstance is just ‘dog and pony’ with a fancier name.

As a Christian, I don’t want the government telling me what god to pray to. For those who don’t find Under God offensive, imagine it as Under Allah and your kids being forced to say it every day. Or Under Gaia, for that matter.

What I would like to see is, in your junior / senior year of high school, you take a civics course that outlines how the government basically works (Congress, Senate, White House, SCOTUS, Taxes, etc) and teaches you the PoA. When you go in to register to vote, you must, unaided and in English, pledge your allegiance to the United States. If, when you get to One nation… you can say Under God / Allah / SaaM, or whatever your little heart desires. Or leave it out. Who cares?

But, since my version of utopia doesn’t exist, nor will it ever, how about we let each child repeat what they are comfortable with. Leave it blank, put something else in, whatever. It’s not like they’re actually pledging allegiance anyway.

rolled out on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:32 PM
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# Re: So? It's not like kids know what they're pledging anyway. - haacked@gmail.com (Haacked)

Rolled Out On: 9/14/2005 5:19 PM

Besides, in a few years the pledge will have a corporate sponsor...

"I Pledge allegiance to the logo of Microsoft Corporation of America and to Time Warner for which it stands, one operating system, under BillG, indivisible, with liberty and Blue Screens for all."

# RE: So? It's not like kids know what they're pledging anyway. - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 9/14/2005 7:46 PM

Not according to Forbes

The behemoths can't last forever. Hence why I prefer the free market. Eventually, even the IBM's and Microsofts will fizzle out.

# RE: So? It's not like kids know what they're pledging anyway. - Ron Franscell

Rolled Out On: 9/14/2005 8:06 PM

From Blogger Ron Franscell at http://underthenews.blogspot.com ...

A federal judge in California has ruled that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools is unconstitutional because the pledge’s reference to “under God” violates school children’s right to be “free from a coercive requirement to affirm God.”

OK, it's California, where a guy with a petition to repeal the suffrage of hamsters could get 10,000 signatures in 30 minutes. It's ironic that ours is a nation where burning the flag is defended as free speech, but kids saying "under God" should be gagged. But really, is this the most pressing issue before a nation at war, a nation rabbit-punched by a hurricane, and a nation with a big al Qaeda target painted on its back?

On one hand, if God intended to reward us for including him in our daily affirmations before class, He might go a little easier on the hurricanes. I mean, don't you think that admitting we're "one nation under God" should invite some tender mercies?

On the other hand, maybe He doesn't care what we force schoolkids to say out loud, and is more interested in how we conduct ourselves when nobody else is looking.

Who knows? The Lord hasn't really been keeping up his blog, so we're not sure what He's thinking. But I can tell you what I'm thinking: These attention-starved atheists are starting to be as annoying as megawatt televangelists.

# RE: So? It's not like kids know what they're pledging anyway. - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 9/14/2005 8:31 PM

Roy,

As one who finds the humanification of God the biggest weakness in all religions (he's more than we are), I don't think he commands hurricanes to happen any less than I believe global warming is doing the same. More of a 'hands off and lets see what happens' kind of guy. Assuming he had hands.

But for your last paragraph. Amen brother. Let's get the militant atheists and televangelists together in one big stadium with a bunch of bats and machetes and let them find out first hand who is right.

# RE: So? It's not like kids know what they're pledging anyway. - Dave Munger

Rolled Out On: 9/15/2005 10:03 PM

Could any term for a god be more inclusive of all gods than "God"?

# RE: So? It's not like kids know what they're pledging anyway. - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 9/16/2005 7:54 AM

Well Dave, even though saying Under God doesn't offend me it pains me to say that atheists don't consider it inclusive at all. And there are still polydeists and those whose word for God is not the same as ours.

I just view it as such a personal thing that everyone should be allowed to frame it the way they want. And in all reality, it's a pledge to the United States. You pledge yourself to God in prayers and in your heart.

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