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This will hopefully be the last bit I do on the whole Terri Schiavo affair.

First, we didn’t know what Terri wanted. Period. You cannot continue the sentence with “therefore we must……” because you’re wrong if you think there’s an accurate, default stance to take in these situations. Erring on either side is still erring which means “I’m wrong”.

Now that she has passed away, I’m hoping that the rhetoric will subside a little as there is no time constraint any more. I think a lot of people made impassionate arguments because they felt they were running out of time. Now that there is no stopwatch, I hope that the level of discourse can rise up a bit. I can’t believe the accusations of “murderer” that have been thrown around like insults on a playground.

Let me inject my own personal beliefs and feelings, because that’s all that 100% of everybody has done anyway (remember my first point).

I think Terri should have never died through slow starvation and dehydration. If there was even the slightest chance she was minimally conscious, everything should have been put in place to ensure she died peacefully. Once it was decided she would have her feeding tube removed, death was imminent. There was no harm in ensuring the body did not feel pain.

Another disappointing reaction by so many people was the incessant implications that allowing Terri to die was the same as executing disabled people. Severely disabled people still affect the outcome of their lives. They can communicate their needs and wishes to others. For me, it had nothing to with being disabled, but rather the opposite. Had she any consciousness left (and I just don’t think she did), how horrible would it be to watch your life go by and have absolutely no control over it? This is where I interjected my own personal feelings into the story because I were in a PVS or even MCS, I would prefer to die. This is not the same as saying “I think anyone who relies on another person to feed them should be euthanize”.

Someone should press charges against Michael Schiavo. Since a lot of people appear to have absolute proof he was an abusive husband (which is illegal), they should take their irrefutable facts to court and have him punished. If you do not possess said facts and evidence, then you need to check your premise. I’m not defending Michael, I am defending everyone’s right to be judged by facts and not emotions.

Neither side of the people actually involved in this case seem squeaky clean to me. Did Terri get the best treatment possible? Why wasn’t an MRI scan requested by the Schindler’s legal team? Why did the Schindler’s originally urge Michael to date other women even though he was still married to Terri? Why, if Michael was so sure his wife was brain dead, did he not allow further tests (although I suspect that he had enough evidence to satisfy himself and knew that her parents would continue to request tests after tests until one showed a possibility that Terri might regain some part of her life, thus making this a never ending cycle)?

This was and still is a very emotional issue for people, but the fact is Terri Schiavo received massive brain damage 15 years ago, brain damage that for the most part could not be reversed. Even if some of her brain could regenerate, all the parts that held her memories and her persona were probably damaged to the point where Terri Schiavo effectively died in 1990. I think a lot of people assumed that, given the correct treatment, Terri Schiavo would have one day woken up exactly the same as before the accident. Now, I’m no doctor so it’s only an educated guess that the best she could have ever hoped for is the ability to eat on her own. It would not have been the 1990 Terri.

The fact that politics were involved was a crime in my mind. While the government is there to provide us protection against injustices, laws made in haste often acerbate the problem instead. Laws should be malleable but the change should be a slow, well thought out process. To jump in and make laws rapidly to solve an impending crisis is a bad idea (Terri’s Law was voted on, signed, and applied within 24 hours). That is what I have the issue with, not the content of the law.

This has been a tragic time. I don’t think it’s a “seminal point in American History”, but it has pitted many people against their own. Hopefully more people will make out their living wills and avoid this type of circus so at least some good comes out of this.

Rest in peace Terri.

rolled out on Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:26 AM
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# RE: Final Words on Schiavo - David Gillies

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 12:36 PM

An MRI scan was impossible because she had a thalamic implant (see section 'Rehabilitation efforts')

# RE: Final Words on Schiavo - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 12:41 PM

I guess I should be a little more clear on that point. Not just the MRI, but any further testing. I mean, you could have surgically removed them if needed, but I realize the amount of work and money that would take.

I still thinkthat Occam's Razor yields that Michael simply decided that there was nothing more he could do for Terri and wanted to put and end to any false hope.

# Re: Final Words on Schiavo - vgblog@thegillfamily.us (vern)

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 3:53 PM

She was given morphine. She did die peacefully. It is my understanding that this is part of the normal procedure when dehydration is taking place.

# RE: Final Words on Schiavo - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 4:04 PM

Yes Vern, but the problem I have is that removing the tube has only one purpose - to cause the demise of the person. Letting nature take her own course as to not soil your hands with guilt is bullshit. If you're going to let her die, at least pump her with an OD of morphine or the same cocktail used for lethal injection. Make it fast, just in case.

From my understanding they give morphine so that the body doesn't reflexively react to any pain. It's more for the people watching than the patient.

# RE: Final Words on Schiavo - vern

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 5:15 PM

That's probably true that it's for the family, not the patient. Nonetheless, from my perspective, letting nature take her course is more acceptable than the lethal cocktail.
To me, that is killing someone, as opposed to letting them go.
It's not about soiling your hands, it's about not continuing something. I don't think anyone can say that there is no guilt in letting nature take her course, but I believe there would be substantially more guilt in gving someone an injection that confirms the decision.

Not to mention the simple fact that, aside from an assisted suicide, doctors (to my knowledge, which is not very extensive) are prohibited from prematurely ending a life.

The dehydration death is akin to a DNR order. The doctors are not supposed to essentially kill someone who is bad off, but they are required to not try to save them.

Terri was allowed to die. The doctors were no longer required or allowed to attempt to rescusitate (sp) or revive her.

I realize you want to let this issue settle, so I'll cut my comment shorter (can't say short, since it obviously isn't).

I just want to end with this;
I completely agree that it was dissapointing that so many people attempted liken this to executing anyone, much less disabled people.

# RE: Final Words on Schiavo - Robb Allen

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 6:03 PM

No, it's not really about settling Vern. I appreciate comments from all angles. Hell, I'm embroiled in argument's over at Ace of Spades where they keep harping on about how "healthy" Terri was as if severe brain damage was no worse than a scraped knee.

I started out on Terri's side, then I educated myself. While the outcome sucked, it sucked either way.

As far as the killing part, we'll have to agree to disagree. Pulling the tube in my mind is a death sentence, might as well make it merciful. I watched my grandmother waste away in front of me as a kid, and the thought of dying in pain over a long period of time is more cruel than making it quick.

The thing is, it's not a happy decision. It's not a happy outcome. But life isn't guaranteed to be happy so you make it as least sucky as possible at times.

# RE: Final Words on Schiavo - vern

Rolled Out On: 3/31/2005 6:58 PM

As you clearly point out, you have a perspective that is unique; you watched someone "waste away". I have fortunatley not had to endure that situation for any noticable lengthof time. My grandfather was the worst scenario I have encountered (thankfully, but really only "yet") and his passing was not that long in coming. Obviously, it was too soon, but you know what I mean.

The point is; the decisions in this case, as with any, hell, every case like this, are very personal, and very specific. We can sit in judgement all we like, but until such time as we have to experience something similiar or eve exactly like this, we can not say with any certainty what we would/would not do.

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