When we’re not talking about the same things?
Look, those who clamor to ban magazine sizes, cosmetic features, even rate of fire are not concerned with crime, ‘the children’, safety, or rights. The very foundation of gun control is control. Those who support it do so either out of abject ignorance or a desire to see the individual subservient to the state.
Oh, there are a few people who deeply believe that if we just stopped selling 17 round magazines, Glocks, and AR’s that violence would disappear. They actually believe that, so I don’t know how you have a conversation about 2 + 2 when the other person swears it’s 15 on Wednesdays and 37 any other day.
But the others – they know what they’re doing. They’re using language to tell the ignorati they’re wanting safety while doing something completely different and thus it tends to put us on the defense. And it’s not just guns, it’s pretty much all politics.
The examples I use are I *do* care about the poor and think the best way to help them is to not give them free shit. But that’s turned around to “You don’t care about poor people”. Again, we’re talking, but not having the same conversation.
Add the distance of the Internet and the inability to add inflection into your comments and… well, we might as well grunt and wave our hands.
Just an irritating thing I wanted to bring up.
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Call it a corollary to the Peterson Syndrome, but it works when discussing firearms, gun safety, and crime reduction quite well.
So in light of that, I'm reminded of the WW2 Poster "My Garand does MY Talking."
I think it's time to Stop Talking and Start Cleaning, Practicing, and Stock Piling.
Got Hoppes#9?
Now outlawed in New York because its en bloc clip holds 8 rounds.
"And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return! "
Thank You Chief Justice John Roberts.
Yep. Straw-man arguments. Just like:
- "Stand Your Ground" equals "License to Kill First"
- "Anti-ObamaCare" equals "Anti-poor-people" (it's called the Affordable Care Act; you must be against affordable care!)
- "Anti-'Assault Weapon'-ban" implies "Pro-nukes-in-the-hands-of-crazies"
- "Anti-registration" equals "Anti-police-investigations"
- "Anti-universal-background-checks" means "Pro-illegal-sales"
- "Pro-CCW" means you WANT to shoot people over parking spaces
- "Anti-magazine-bans" means you want to shoot A LOT of people over parking spaces
The list is endless.
TS
Oh, and New York in their hasteforgot to exempt law
enforcement from having to have seven round magazines.
Immature and illogical, and they remind me of those childish tantrums in the sweets isles in supermarkets >;->
As far as this subject is concerned. They can't help their ignorance or their Liberal education.


More examples of faulty logic:
-Anti gun control implies pro dead children
-Pro choice implies pro dead babies
-Anti political party X doing something stupid implies supporting political party Y