At St. Joseph’s Children’s Hospital, the entrance has a dark red sign (sooooo easy to read…. *eye roll*) that says Absolutely No Weapons Permitted. I was concerned because practically every person who was in the hospital was armed to the teeth.
The nurses carried sharp scissors and pens that could stab. There were scalpels. The sheer amount of poisons just sitting around were scary. The chairs were not bolted to the floor, making them bludgeons you can sit on. People were allowed to walk around without their fists bound or their teeth covered via Hannibal Lecter masks. For God’s sake, they even had Oxygen Deprivation Devices (aka pillows) in each child’s room!!
If you were wanting to deal out a larger amount of damage, there was unlimited, flammable hand sanitizer you could use to wreak havoc.
Now, this is a private institution - they’re more than welcome to ban left shoes, Tap Out t-shirts and bubble gum at their whim. I’m sure that the weapons thing is the product of some lawyerly brain trust who thinks a sign is all the talisman they need to avoid lawsuits however my problem with it is that signs like that continue to promote the false, logically incorrect view that an object is a weapon that doesn’t require a human to operate it and by simply waving a magic wand posting a sign and preventing said objects from crossing a threshold, danger is removed.
Bullshit.
There is no weapon without the human. If they found a dagger used to kill Julius Caesar and put it in a display case, it ceases to be a weapon and instead becomes an historical relic to look upon. However, if you were to shatter the glass that encased the knife, grabbed a shard, and tried to stab the guard with it, the very thing that protected the knife against fingerprints and sneezes is now the weapon.
Signs do nothing to stop a criminal. The law abiding tend to follow them. What this means is at the very time someone with ill intent enters to do harm, the very people you need to be armed, aren’t. If signs against objects worked, why not simply change them to say “No crime is permitted”. That way, the law abiding can remain within the bounds of your rules while not putting them at the mercy of the criminal?
Oh, and by the way - the entire campus is posted as a smoke free area. Twice I had to walk through a cloud of smoke where the offender was literally leaning on a ‘No Smoking’ sign. The magic signs didn’t work there, they won’t work on a determined criminal intent on doing harm.
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In california there is a mandatory waiting period to pick up a purchased firearm. I used to chuckle at the notion that only a gun can me dangerous.....really, I mean c'mon folks.
They have a similar policy, but actually had a city cop manning a metal detector/frisk operation at the entrance. Further still, they had a protocol in place for CCW holders.
That actually didn't bother me, since an armed cop was clearing everyone who entered, even employees.
Of course a nurse could always go postal with a scalpel, but this procedure seemed to keep the street gangs out of the lobby.
(When I took my concealed carry class in the latter state, the instructor pointed out that every bank has a "no concealable weapons" sign and not a one of them met the requirements, rendering them merely advisory.)
If the business does not have a 'no weapons' policy, they can be sued for every shooting that occurs on the premises.
By banning firearms, they are immune from such liability, because their policy forbids it.
This is a backdoor gun ban attempt by government: create a legal environment whereby you force property owners to carry out the ban on the government's behalf.
311.12 Seaport security.—
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(3) SECURE AND RESTRICTED AREAS.—Each seaport listed in s. 311.09 must clearly designate in seaport security plans, and clearly identify with appropriate signs and markers on the premises of a seaport, all secure and restricted areas as defined by 33 C.F.R. part 105.
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(b) The seaport must provide clear notice of the prohibition against possession of concealed weapons and other contraband material on the premises of the seaport. Any person in a restricted area who has in his or her possession a concealed weapon, or who operates or has possession or control of a vehicle in or upon which a concealed weapon is placed or stored, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. This paragraph does not apply to active-duty certified federal or state law enforcement personnel or persons so designated by the seaport director in writing.
So far I am 150 or so to zero on being called on it.
It isn't law (as you stated) and they (the liability crybabies) can bite me or ask me to leave if anyone notices.
For the record I OC when I go into hospitals in GA. So far no complaints or my gun suddenly jumping up and creating a massacre.


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