I never thought I’d ever find myself saying this Geekdom But after working in Lotus Notes for the past year, I yearn for the speed, ease of use, and stability of Microsoft Outlook. Comments Sam says: on 4/25/2012 at 1:46 PM I feel your pain. After using Just Gmail and Mac mail, I have to use notes now. talk about a slow pig Barron Barnett says: on 4/25/2012 at 2:06 PM *Insert rant of 4 letter explitives followed by "Lotus Notes" repeatedly here* I hate LN, with a passion. Drives my computer to a halt, utter pain in the butt, no one here hates it. Honestly after having a fully blown Active Sync enabled exchange mail box I will never go back to plain email. My wife now understands why I love exchange so much. It was good with my blackberry, now with my android it's just totally awesome. LN is like clearcase, it's that tool someone built a long time ago and it just needs to die but they keep it on life support for some crazy reason. Alan says: on 4/25/2012 at 2:19 PM WTF, someone is still using Notes? The 1990s called and they want their shitty messaging platform back. Teke says: on 4/25/2012 at 2:23 PM I think Alan put it best. Borepatch says: on 4/25/2012 at 3:31 PM I prefer Banyan VINES, or even EMACS ... Bubblehead Les says: on 4/25/2012 at 3:36 PM The Wife is an AS400 programmer (yes, they still exist), and she still has to deal with Lotus Notes. She calls it "the Zombie Program", because IT WILL NOT DIE! DirtCrashr says: on 4/25/2012 at 3:57 PM Sheesn I remember doing advertising graphics for Notes the box when Egghead was still in business... SPQR says: on 4/25/2012 at 4:54 PM Damn, you people are old ... DaddyBear says: on 4/25/2012 at 4:56 PM Truly, a sad day when Outlook is considered a superior product. 45er says: on 4/25/2012 at 7:48 PM You too? Lotus Notes was forced upon me due to a conversion and I'm hating every minute of it. ::G says: on 4/25/2012 at 11:29 PM IBM still uses it. As does at least one company that they sold off, due to the thousands of databases that are in Notes format. I'm not sure I'd prefer Outlook over Notes, though. Notes kind of grows on you, like a fungus. The biggest detriment is only being able to search titles of entries in databases, not the content.... Make sure to keep ZapNotes handy so you don't have to reboot when it inevitably crashes on you ;-) Rabbit says: on 4/25/2012 at 11:37 PM IBM bought Lotus so at least somebody would write applications for OS/2. We called it Slowtus Bloats. Our internal teams had a separate app called Notes Zapper to thoroughly purge crashed Notes sessions. Exurbankevin says: on 4/25/2012 at 11:44 PM My first job in marketing was building HTML emails for IBM, which sucked because at the time, because the client was on Notes and Notes didn't support HTML back then. Getting client approval on design was a *bitch*. Robb Allen says: on 4/26/2012 at 7:12 AM Rabbit, there's an actual Lotus Notes executable that we have in case it crashes. Written BY Lotus Notes. You *know* you have issues if you have to include a "Yeah, it'll lock up from time to time but this app should kill it for you" app. Dwight Brown says: on 4/26/2012 at 8:59 AM I miss GroupWise. julie says: on 4/26/2012 at 9:33 AM totally agree, in my last job i had to go back to lotus notes after years of outlook ... luckily after i had been there 12 months they decided to roll out Outlook ... was so pleased to get back to it Dave says: on 4/26/2012 at 10:40 AM I was the “Lotus Notes Guy” at my last job, when I left they finally switched to Outlook, a move I had pushed for a long time (No one could keep it running after me I guess) Dave H says: on 4/26/2012 at 4:51 PM IBM Lotus Notes still exists because IBM (and previously Lotus) sold it to other ponderous, hidebound corporations who now won't abandon their massive investment in it. Kind of like everybody in the mid-1980s who thought they could sell their used Apple IIs for $2000 so they could upgrade to a PC. "But I paid $3600 for it just two years ago!" Duane says: on 4/26/2012 at 9:12 PM Spent around 20 Months as a contract system/network admin at the US branch of a major Electronics manufacturer back around 2000. They ran Lotus Notes for email. 250 users and around 200+ GB of storage and we needed to keep adding drives. Top couple of users had full text indexes of their mailboxes to add like 7 GB of extra used storage for themselves. I asked about enabling single store and was told it did not work on the older version they ran. We had the usual 80/20 distribution but it was more like 5/240 with the top 5 users taking about 98% of the email store. Much prefer Exchange. Standard Mischief says: on 4/29/2012 at 1:22 PM Before I learned enough lotus-script to be able to deal with the annoyances, I have a cow-orker who always, every single time, sent all her messages with "return receipt". This is how I dealt with that: 1. make a copy of your email database, except without any of the messages, to a floppy (hey, it's a really old trick). 2. without opening the message, copy it to the floppy. 3. Pop out the floppy, and flip the write protect tab. Reinsert. 4. Try to open the message, repeatably. Oh so annoyingly repeatably. What use to happen was that Notes noticed that the message was tagged return-receipt, so it then sends the return-receipt message back to the original sender. Then Notes discovers that the drive is read only, and does not allow the bit to be flipped. Repeat maybe 100x times, and perhaps you can cure your cow-orker of this strange nosy-busybody affliction of hers. Comments have been closed on this topic.