I am sick and tired of this whole affair. Many people seem to have the right idea, Tam summarizing it up quite well
- Zimmerman was out doing his neighborhood watch thing and saw Martin.
- He called 911 and followed Martin in his vehicle.
- When Martin walked someplace that Zimmerman couldn't follow in his vehicle, he got out of his vehicle and followed on foot.
- ???
- In the process of getting his ass beaten, Zimmerman busts a cap in Martin.
The entire case turns on what happened in the ???, but don't tell that to the media, the folks playing poker with a deck full of race cards, the victim disarmament crowd, or apparently the frickin' President of the United States of America.
Ah, fuck it. Let's just replace our overly complex legal system with a public opinion court. "Text 'Innocent' or 'Guilty' to #8008! (Messaging rates may apply.)
Sad, because that seems to be what’s going on here. I chime in and say “We’re not clear on step 4:??? which is where the whole affair hinges on” and I’m shouted down that I’m defending Zimmerman (and thus must be a racist). Speaking of racism, if you are a person with a darker pigmented dermis and have to base your entire worldview on some made up ‘fact’ that everyone is racist regardless if they want to be or not, you’re an idiot. Just saying. I mean, I’m glad you’re psychic and can read my mind better than I can, but fuck off ok? I don’t care what color your skin is. I have personal feelings about cultures and you’re more than welcome to debate me on that, but skin color? Get a life.
To my fellow Floridians. Are you scared what this affair will do to our rights? Don’t bitch to me in my comments, go bitch to your representatives. They don’t read my blog (unless I mention their name and then, just that post), they’re not on your Facebook page, they don’t follow you on Twitter. The same amount of effort you put into those things could be applied to an email or a phone call to their offices to let them know to not go near Stand Your Ground with a 10’ pole.
To the rest of the gunnies – You’ve prepared yourself mentally to defend your life. You’ve trained to be situationally aware. You’re more than willing to run when you can and would only use your gun as a last resort. Great. Are you prepared to be Zimmermaned? Granted, Zimmerman seemed to cause his problems and could have easily avoided the entire thing (this does not mean he’s guilty of a crime, but he is guilty of creating an unnecessary situation) but you don’t get to pick and choose when you get to defend yourself. If you successfully defend your life, you will be alive, but are you ready to have your life consumed like this? It could happen.
Oh, and I’ve seen some people claim that because there’s a bounty out on him, the Popo could simply arrest him and keep him safe in jail. To them, I say “Arrest him for what?” The cops didn’t charge him because one, they had no reason to believe he hunted down and killed Martin from what data they could gather at the scene. This doesn’t mean they cannot pursue details and then charge Zimmerman later when they have a good case against him. You see, the second he is charged and arrested, that whole “speedy trial” clock starts ticking. If they arrest him without good evidence, then the cops are in a rush against time to get anything. How do you think that works out in the end?
Allowing cops to arrest when they have no evidence a crime has been committed puts you and me in clear danger. Not just you and me, but if you think cops are unfair on blacks, just wait until they can arrest them for thinking they committed a crime vs. having to show evidence of such.
And with that, I’m done here. Until I get more details, there’s nothing else I can say about this case. Two people know exactly what happened and one is dead and the other has surely realized that even a non-committal grunt to the public would be used against him. This is a media circus driven by several groups with agendas who care not one whit about facts and true justice, something that probably never will happen now.
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Not to mention sad...
I chime in and say “We’re not clear on step 4:??? which is where the whole affair hinges on” and I’m shouted down that I’m defending Zimmerman (and thus must be a racist).
I just saw that exact same thing happen on Facebook to a friend of mine. His post?
Can we all step back from the hysteria for just one moment? We don't know what happened between Zimmerman and Martin yet. We don't know who did what, or why, or how. Zimmerman is hiding, not fleeing the country. Calling for his head on a platter is the worst kind of reactivism there is. Once the data comes back, once witnesses are located, once we have a clearer picture of what happened that night... THEN we can start screaming for justice.
And the whole thing, between him and someone he apparently considers a friend, degenerated into "He's guilty!" "Let's wait for the facts before lynching him." "He's guilty!" "Let's wait for the facts.", ad nauseam. She implied heavily that he's being racist, but denied it when he called her on it.
Rationality has gone completely out the window on this. If Zimmerman does get charged, it's all going to hinge on the appeals, because he'll never get a fair trial at this point.
Ah, fuck it. Let's just replace our overly complex legal system with a public opinion court. "Text 'Innocent' or 'Guilty' to #8008! (Messaging rates may apply.)
FTW!
Then I expect the riots to start. Well maybe, maybe not. The professional race baiters and shit stirrers are giving it their all (with the help of the media), but it looks like the local community leaders are actively trying to quiet things down.
As far as people calling you a racist Robb. Welcome to the club. (some) People have been swearing that I'm a racist asshole for years. Those who KNOW me, know that I don't give a crap. Many of the same people think I'm a homophobe, and don't even notice when I argue FOR gay marriage. Usually more fervently than they do.
Some people like to put others into convenient little boxes because it takes less thought than actually listening and understanding what someone is saying/where they are coming from.
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We have now had
Cute girl can't get medical coverage (with the role of cute girl being played by a hag)
White racist murders innocent black boy
Additional stories planned between now and November:
Poor homeless family story
Republicans-hate-Latinos story
Bad insurance scammers are stealing the money/preventing the research that would have bought kept recent-dead-celebrity alive
Summer heat = global warming
Arrest does not mean charged with a crime. It means taken into custody. There are various legal reasons to take someone into custody without charging them; like it or not.
"Two people know exactly what happened . . ."
My experience suggests that it's unwise to be too sure about that even.
Personally I'm agin it on principal. Nor do I expect that anyone is going to be that stupid.
He might ask though. Has anyone seen him lately?
" . . . or his arrest is unconstitutional."
And nobody would ever do anything like that, never mind get away with it.
Example: "His attempt to rob/ rape/ abduct/ murder me was clearly a hate crime, because I am white/ Jewish/ a goth/ lesbian."
I will toss out, like chaff, every single difference I can think of as to why HE would want to hate ME.
The movie was so-so. The book is quite good.
When you read that backwards and inside out, it sounds like a cute way to get them to read your blog - mention their name once a week or so - rotate between congress critters and executives, and Hey Presto, you have input into the legislative process.
You mustn't abuse the this awesome power - you should only use it for good.
"I hate seing my choices boiled down to shoot someone and live to be ruined or to allow someone to kill me."
He had a bunch more choices than that, such as 'stay in the truck and on the phone with 911...'
While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back was wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head.
Of course, ABC "News" has posted a video they say shows that Zimmerman wasn't injured at all. Of course, it's security camera footage from his arrival at the police station. So not only was it taken after he had been seen and probably cleaned up by the medics on scene, but the image quality isn't that great either. Oh, and they conveniently leave their "breaking news" logo overlay positioned to obscure his head and face for most of the segment, too.
I swear, if the news media said that water is wet, I'd have to go turn on the faucet just to make sure.
Let's see if it works
As to being "Zimmermaned": if I ever have to use Lethal Force AGAIN to Defend Myself, My Family and any Innocent Bystanders that are nearby, I will be more concerned about Staying Alive rather than being Crucified by the Professional Racists and their Allies in the MSM and the Political Asshats. Those Scumbags will do their best to Hang YOU out to Dry for their Own Agenda anyway. And you DON'T get to choose the Age/Race/Gender/Numbers of any Goblins that are coming for you. But be Damned Sure that Lethal Force is Necessary to Stop the Aggression. And if it is, do what ever you need to do to Stop It, and Go No Further.
And don't have your Weapon in your Hands when the Police DO show up. All they got from Dispatch is a Shooting taking place, and a Man with a Gun is a Target, even if it is you. So keep your Hands Empty and in Plain View of everyone once the Shooting Stops and the Threat is Ended. Standing over the Goblin with you Pistol Pointed at him yelling "I got Him Covered!" will only get some Slugs into your Body.
Hope this helps.