Yesterday I made a small joke about not being able to eat an AR-15 after the SHTF. It was really said tongue in cheek because… well, this comment from McThag sums it up nicely
Might not be able to eat an AR, but there's lots of people without one who bought lots of food.
Read that. Let it simmer in your brain for a little bit if you need.
What good is all your work if you cannot defend the fruits of your labor? Come TEOTWAWKI, the police will not be there to arrest the man murdering your family for the last can of Dinty Moore Stew. Doesn’t even have to be TEOTWAWKI, it could just be after a bad storm, hurricane, blizzard, etc. Society is a fragile thing, regardless of how secure you feel.
I still feel people are stocking up on guns and ammo because they fear a collapse more than they fear confiscation. Will you be able to protect what is yours?
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SayUncle » I thought the same thing
on 2/26/2013 7:34 PM
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Joel
says:
on 2/26/2013 at 10:19 AM
And while all that's true and stuff, I'm still made very uncomfortable by the company of people who'd seriously - or even jokingly - make statements like the one you quoted.
McThag
says:
I moved here from Iowa, hurricanes were an alien thing to me.
The first time there was one brewing in the Gulf after I moved down I didn't have money to buy any extra groceries. That was scary.
My neighbor was carrying in pallets of water and canned goods. He asked about why I wasn't. I told him no money. He asked if I had a gun. I said yup. He said he'd split the food if I'd split the guns. Deal!
Different neighbor later.
This one went out of their way to flip me crap when they saw gun cases one day. Later he was bragging to friends about his spiffy new 6k kW gen set for hurricane season.
I asked, you still don't have a gun, right? He proudly said he didn't. I said, you sure bought me a nice generator! He sputtered something about me taking it at gun point. "Nope," I replied," when the time comes I'll swap you my shittiest gun for that generator and you're going to be grateful I did."
He's got an AR now too.
The first time there was one brewing in the Gulf after I moved down I didn't have money to buy any extra groceries. That was scary.
My neighbor was carrying in pallets of water and canned goods. He asked about why I wasn't. I told him no money. He asked if I had a gun. I said yup. He said he'd split the food if I'd split the guns. Deal!
Different neighbor later.
This one went out of their way to flip me crap when they saw gun cases one day. Later he was bragging to friends about his spiffy new 6k kW gen set for hurricane season.
I asked, you still don't have a gun, right? He proudly said he didn't. I said, you sure bought me a nice generator! He sputtered something about me taking it at gun point. "Nope," I replied," when the time comes I'll swap you my shittiest gun for that generator and you're going to be grateful I did."
He's got an AR now too.
McThag
says:
I've noticed that people assume violence.
If I've an excess of AR and a shortage of food and you have an excess of food with a shortage of AR...
We can trade.
If I've an excess of AR and a shortage of food and you have an excess of food with a shortage of AR...
We can trade.
I'm good, not great on both Guns and Food, but I've had a simple policy for years. We can Trade, I might even Sell, but Looters get removed from the Business Cycle ASAP.
You want Free Food in a Time of Crisis because you spent your Money on Plasma Screens and Season Tickets instead of Stocking Up? Get it from Obama.
You want Free Food in a Time of Crisis because you spent your Money on Plasma Screens and Season Tickets instead of Stocking Up? Get it from Obama.
@ Bubblehead
And I think that is EXACTLY what will happen.
Those who are favored will receive gov't help. Those that resist totalitarian measures will be labeled hot spots and have it explained thus:
"We cannot send in food trucks to area[x] because we have had violence, threats against peace officers, and threats of terrorism in zone [x]. These few militant people refuse to comply with temporary and common sense measures to ensure public safety. They are, in effect, holding their fellow Americans hostage. Until those radical and violent folk cease and desist in their life threatening activities relief workers will be unable to supply these desperate areas with vital and life saving medical services and delivery of food. To all peaceful citizen in area [x], please report such individuals and if you feel it necessary, move to your nearest FEMA relief area."
Bam - YOU are the "enemy" and "the bad guy" who is causing your area to be deprived of food and medical relief. You are labeled a terrorist, and they WILL lie and / or use video of some malcontent (paint you with that brush), and your neighbors know one thing: YOU are keeping them from being fed. While they may also know the turth .... their family is without power and their food supplies are dwindling. Giving you up as "one of those crazy gun toting prepper anti-gov't types" is a small piece of paper standing between them and their family being fed, dry, and warm.
It won't be some dumb fantasy about an obvious rebelion wherein we get to play the good guys and our neighbors rise up with us - at least not very often.
They will be the kind hearted folk who have the food and REALLY WANT to give it to all their loyal citizens, but "those nasty insane terrorists" (you and me) are preventing it.
Just sayin'
And I think that is EXACTLY what will happen.
Those who are favored will receive gov't help. Those that resist totalitarian measures will be labeled hot spots and have it explained thus:
"We cannot send in food trucks to area[x] because we have had violence, threats against peace officers, and threats of terrorism in zone [x]. These few militant people refuse to comply with temporary and common sense measures to ensure public safety. They are, in effect, holding their fellow Americans hostage. Until those radical and violent folk cease and desist in their life threatening activities relief workers will be unable to supply these desperate areas with vital and life saving medical services and delivery of food. To all peaceful citizen in area [x], please report such individuals and if you feel it necessary, move to your nearest FEMA relief area."
Bam - YOU are the "enemy" and "the bad guy" who is causing your area to be deprived of food and medical relief. You are labeled a terrorist, and they WILL lie and / or use video of some malcontent (paint you with that brush), and your neighbors know one thing: YOU are keeping them from being fed. While they may also know the turth .... their family is without power and their food supplies are dwindling. Giving you up as "one of those crazy gun toting prepper anti-gov't types" is a small piece of paper standing between them and their family being fed, dry, and warm.
It won't be some dumb fantasy about an obvious rebelion wherein we get to play the good guys and our neighbors rise up with us - at least not very often.
They will be the kind hearted folk who have the food and REALLY WANT to give it to all their loyal citizens, but "those nasty insane terrorists" (you and me) are preventing it.
Just sayin'
Veeshir
says:
As I always said, I might not have a lot of food, but I'll find some people who do and who need protection from Lord Humongous.
As long as there are people, there will always be food.... if you can stomach it.
I see this as two issues:
1) Disarmament by a government who has decided the Constitution is no longer a workable document.
2) SHTF. There will simply not be enough food to share, guys. A few weeks, maybe, a month, tops. Then you will be in major trouble, unless you have your own. A good friend in Emergency Management has studied this at length for several governmental agencies. He’s now independent and counsels businesses on emergency preparedness. His studies say we are no more than 3 weeks from eating dogs and cats, especially in cities and suburbs. Rural areas generally have major stockpiles of basic foodstuffs in comparison to the population, so they will fare better. Grain silos, potato storage, etc. BUT…they will need protection, which most rural areas out west can easily provide for themselves. Not so easy in cities and back east.
Better get your own!
- See more at: http://www.saysuncle.com/2013/02/26/i-thought-the-same-thing-2/#comments
1) Disarmament by a government who has decided the Constitution is no longer a workable document.
2) SHTF. There will simply not be enough food to share, guys. A few weeks, maybe, a month, tops. Then you will be in major trouble, unless you have your own. A good friend in Emergency Management has studied this at length for several governmental agencies. He’s now independent and counsels businesses on emergency preparedness. His studies say we are no more than 3 weeks from eating dogs and cats, especially in cities and suburbs. Rural areas generally have major stockpiles of basic foodstuffs in comparison to the population, so they will fare better. Grain silos, potato storage, etc. BUT…they will need protection, which most rural areas out west can easily provide for themselves. Not so easy in cities and back east.
Better get your own!
- See more at: http://www.saysuncle.com/2013/02/26/i-thought-the-same-thing-2/#comments
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