I don’t think the massive gun rush is because people fear pending gun legislation. I think people see the collapse coming and want to be somewhat prepared.
Me? I see a lot of free guns from the hands of people who starved to death when they realized they can’t eat an AR15.
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on 2/25/2013 at 12:26 PM
Might not be able to eat an AR, but there's lots of people without one who bought lots of food.
Of course, there is the old saying about "He who has the Gun gets to Eat First..."
Good thing I have Six Months of Food AND Ammo, "Just in Case."
Good thing I have Six Months of Food AND Ammo, "Just in Case."
I tend to agree. I'm stocking up on deeply discounted items I come upon.
When I see like new RCBS dies on Craigslist for $20 ($60+ on gunbroker), I'm buying them.
Recent yard/estate sale gems:
Boxes of .270
.41mag brass
.35 whelen bullets
All for pennies on the dollar of retail prices.
I can't use any of this currently, but it doesn't take much room and won't ever go bad.
When I see like new RCBS dies on Craigslist for $20 ($60+ on gunbroker), I'm buying them.
Recent yard/estate sale gems:
Boxes of .270
.41mag brass
.35 whelen bullets
All for pennies on the dollar of retail prices.
I can't use any of this currently, but it doesn't take much room and won't ever go bad.
Priorities are not strictly about putting the most important needs first; prioritization is also about putting the first things first. To my knowledge no one is trying to ban food, so can it wait? Sometimes your priorities are chosen for you.
My wife coordinates purchases of food for long-term storage for a large group. The gun dealer where we generally purchase firearms is one of those buying food through her. He tells the story about one of his customers saying that he'd just take food from the Mormons; they store food. The dealer just started laughing and told the guy that Mormons were some of his best customers. I wonder when my wife's new shotgun will get in....
Take a look at a Mormon church. They look like they were designed for defense. It's not in your face features, but they look respectable. Those would be the last people I'd want to tangle with.
I'd go after gangs first, if I was desperate.
I'd go after gangs first, if I was desperate.
LOLsalot. We get that pretty often - "oh, I'll just take food from the Mormons."
People forget that the Mormons were literally killed/burned/raped driven out of state after state, including an official Extermination Order from the governor of Missouri. When they arrived in Utah, it was at the end of a long and brutal fight that was quite literally an "us vs. the world" fight for their lives and freedom, which they survived and from which they learned lessons.
Mormons are about the most patriotic bunch there is, but have "some history" with the Feddle Gubmit and trouble-minded neighbors.
For the record, I have never heard a SINGLE word about guns etc from the pulpit. Lots about Jesus, and being prepared, and loving thy neighbor, and "obey, honor, and sustain the law" etc., but nothing about arming up.
But I'm just sayin'. Without quite sayin'...
People forget that the Mormons were literally killed/burned/raped driven out of state after state, including an official Extermination Order from the governor of Missouri. When they arrived in Utah, it was at the end of a long and brutal fight that was quite literally an "us vs. the world" fight for their lives and freedom, which they survived and from which they learned lessons.
Mormons are about the most patriotic bunch there is, but have "some history" with the Feddle Gubmit and trouble-minded neighbors.
For the record, I have never heard a SINGLE word about guns etc from the pulpit. Lots about Jesus, and being prepared, and loving thy neighbor, and "obey, honor, and sustain the law" etc., but nothing about arming up.
But I'm just sayin'. Without quite sayin'...
I picked up a $300.00 shotgun and $200.00 worth of ammo at the gun buy back for $100.00.
I am OK with that.
I am OK with that.
I am a prepper - and a relatively recent convert to prepping ... may I humbly add some thoughts?
1) I'm not some kook or doom and gloomer - I can do MATH, and our country's economic goose is cooked unless we do some drastic changes. I don't see those changes coming.
2) I started prepping about 1 ½ years ago – so not a long time ago. When the gov’t announced QE2 and was already talking about QE3, I knew we were likely screwed.
3) Prepping doesn’t have to be expensive. It can be daunting and intimidating, when you look at the supplies of someone who has been doing it seriously for a year or three at the amount of stuff they have accumulated.
Simply put: Start with simple goals:
a) Start with enough food for 1 month. I suggest Wise Foods, but I’m not “the expert” or a know-it-all, just offering a suggestion.
b) Then start with basics for 1 month: vitamins, heat, fuel, blankets, batteries, candles, etc.
c) Then look around your house for things you WILL need, but take for granted: Toilet Paper, cleaning supplies (disease in a WROL situation is a killer), books and games to pass time, DOG FOOD (either that or you shoot him or you eat him or he eats YOUR food), more batteries, garbage bags (sanitation is vital) and a place to bury / burn your waste. You get the idea – walk around your house and realize how much stuff you take for granted and what you’ll need.
d) Then plan for 2 months or 3.
In short – set attainable goals and ask questions.
Hope this was helpful.
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1) I'm not some kook or doom and gloomer - I can do MATH, and our country's economic goose is cooked unless we do some drastic changes. I don't see those changes coming.
2) I started prepping about 1 ½ years ago – so not a long time ago. When the gov’t announced QE2 and was already talking about QE3, I knew we were likely screwed.
3) Prepping doesn’t have to be expensive. It can be daunting and intimidating, when you look at the supplies of someone who has been doing it seriously for a year or three at the amount of stuff they have accumulated.
Simply put: Start with simple goals:
a) Start with enough food for 1 month. I suggest Wise Foods, but I’m not “the expert” or a know-it-all, just offering a suggestion.
b) Then start with basics for 1 month: vitamins, heat, fuel, blankets, batteries, candles, etc.
c) Then look around your house for things you WILL need, but take for granted: Toilet Paper, cleaning supplies (disease in a WROL situation is a killer), books and games to pass time, DOG FOOD (either that or you shoot him or you eat him or he eats YOUR food), more batteries, garbage bags (sanitation is vital) and a place to bury / burn your waste. You get the idea – walk around your house and realize how much stuff you take for granted and what you’ll need.
d) Then plan for 2 months or 3.
In short – set attainable goals and ask questions.
Hope this was helpful.
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What Steven said.
Plus, I've been on a Roman history kick for a few years. Took a trip to see the sites.
Got to see the "country home" of Emperor Hadrian. He was the most powerful man in Europe; decorated the place with scenes from around the empire -- not art representing the scenes, but LANDSCAPES. A little Greek temple, a massive pool with crocodile statues for the Nile. Had an island built for a private retreat -- it had a drawbridge he could pull up when he wanted to be alone.
I should say I saw the RUINS of all that. Not a building intact. In fact, it had been buried for most of a millenia.
It drives home just how fragile society is, and how far things can fall.
Plus, I've been on a Roman history kick for a few years. Took a trip to see the sites.
Got to see the "country home" of Emperor Hadrian. He was the most powerful man in Europe; decorated the place with scenes from around the empire -- not art representing the scenes, but LANDSCAPES. A little Greek temple, a massive pool with crocodile statues for the Nile. Had an island built for a private retreat -- it had a drawbridge he could pull up when he wanted to be alone.
I should say I saw the RUINS of all that. Not a building intact. In fact, it had been buried for most of a millenia.
It drives home just how fragile society is, and how far things can fall.
Had a conversation w/ some friends of mine a while back concerning the nutritional value of a Mosin Nagant stock.
Yeah, we talked about eating a gun for nourishment.
Yeah, we talked about eating a gun for nourishment.
Joe Biden just promised me that I have nothing to fear and don't need to fight their legislation.
If I can't trust Joe to be knowledgeable, articulate and trustworthy, than I just don't know what to do.
If I can't trust Joe to be knowledgeable, articulate and trustworthy, than I just don't know what to do.
@STW, Will, and 1911Man:
Yeah, Mormons have a long, rough history, and many-if-not-most have a very self-reliant attitude.
I've also never heard any commands or recommendations "from the pulpit" to arm up, but there's an unspoken implication that self-reliance and being prepared also include being able to defend the home and family. Considering it's the fundamental unit of society, ESPECIALLY the family.
Religious or not, Mormon or not, I can't find fault with that reasoning.
Yeah, Mormons have a long, rough history, and many-if-not-most have a very self-reliant attitude.
I've also never heard any commands or recommendations "from the pulpit" to arm up, but there's an unspoken implication that self-reliance and being prepared also include being able to defend the home and family. Considering it's the fundamental unit of society, ESPECIALLY the family.
Religious or not, Mormon or not, I can't find fault with that reasoning.
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