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“I prefer to keep the criminals guessing” is not exactly one of them. I hear this a lot. On the surface, it’s logical – with concealed carry, a criminal has to believe that just because he or she cannot see a firearm doesn’t mean there isn’t one there and thus must always assume someone has a gun – and if the argument stopped there, I’d agree completely. The problem is, I see people take it to a most illogical conclusion. The argument has a tendency to move to “If people don’t show their guns,...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 7/14/2014 8:36:56 AM | Feedback (20)
Your right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed by the government. A privately owned store can tell you to leave your heater out of their shopping centers all they want. This message brought to you out of necessity since some dipshit is going to get his third chin in a knot and tote his Mosin into Target to show them who doesn’t understand the concept of rights!
posted by by Robb Allen @ 7/2/2014 6:03:16 PM | Feedback (36)
You can fully support open carry while calling out the Westboro Baptists of OC for their shenanigans. There was no need to apologize for the NRA’s statement on OCT as I assure you, even rabid OC supporters such as myself are risking concussions with all the face-palming over their stupid protests.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/4/2014 3:00:15 PM | Feedback (7)
Florida Carry has been an ardent supporter of getting Open Carry here in the Sunshine state. We host monthly OC fishing events to try to spread the word. We admonish our people to be polite, avoid confrontation, and above all, don’t be “all up in people’s grills” about it. For years, it has been working just great and a lot of it has to do with our members being calm but passionate about it. We have to walk that fine line of advocacy where you have to make people aware of your goals without...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/12/2014 11:30:32 AM | Feedback (17)
So, while I was in Alabama, I had to be careful with my family since it’s an Open Carry state. Because it’s a very permissive OC state, we often had to dodge bullets that flew by by crazed, racist cowboys who were still pissed over the whole segregation thing being abolished. Practically every person wore their heaters on their belts and guns were drawn over the slightest issue. Well, I assume that happened and that it was just a fluke that I didn’t see a single openly carried gun the entire...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/13/2014 9:17:43 AM | Feedback (13)
Over at Say Uncle’s, Mac has decided that I have gotten a bit too uppity for my own good and has taken the necessary steps of reminding me that I am, in fact, a vaginal cleansing agent More OC douchery from Robb, a guy who lives in a CC only state and gets he attention whoring on by organizing little fishing trips so his minion can stomp around with gats out in the open. Wow, all this time I thought that my admonishments to our group that we were to remain as non-confrontational and as...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/17/2014 7:13:18 AM | Feedback (10)
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/16/2014 12:28:45 PM | Feedback (0)
But I’ll try again. Hell, I’m trying to think of a way to prevent commenting until a reader can pass a test indicating they actually made it through the entire post before hammering the Fire Away button on the comments. I think I see the disconnect in my questions regarding the phrase “I prefer Concealed Carry because I like having the element of surprise.” When I think of ‘surprising’ someone in a combat situation, I think of ‘Ambush’. I walk down a street, looking meek and timid, trying to...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/16/2014 9:03:20 AM | Feedback (14)
My previous post was 100% misunderstood and instead of discussing a single aspect given as a reason for concealed carry that is logically unsound to me it turned into “OC v CC”. To be expected. People have such a hard-wired response to defend their choices that I figured as much would happen, but hey, hope springs eternal and all. In that vein, here I go again (because I’m a slow learner). Let’s take a simple, common example (and negative 100 points to the first person who has to tinker with...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/15/2014 8:38:08 PM | Feedback (30)
I cannot, for the life of me, comprehend the argument against Open Carry that states “I prefer the element of surprise”. Nnot against it being legal, mind you, just the argument about the act of openly carrying. I get the fear about having your gun taken from you or that you’d be targeted by criminals. I disagree that this is statistically relevant, but I understand the natural inclination to avoid risk when possible. I also get the social stigma and the desire to avoid police encounters. I’m...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/15/2014 11:32:04 AM | Feedback (39)
Because I think I just injured my right hand face-palming so hard. As someone who is actively trying to get OC legalized in Florida, I sometimes feel our strongest opposition comes from gun owners. Lord knows, as much as it pains me to say, they have a lot of valid points to their arguments especially when you have OC’ers bitching about Tam being not-pro-gun-enough.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/30/2013 9:26:01 AM | Feedback (5)
Especially #1 and #10. 10 Steps for Successful Open Carry Activism
posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/9/2013 2:08:53 PM | Feedback (2)
As anyone who has read me fore more than a few days knows, I’m as ardent of an Open Carry supporter as it gets. I don’t buy into the ‘tactical advantage’ that concealed gives you, and OC is much, much, much more comfortable, especially in places like Florida where lighter clothing options are used year round. I realize there are some loudmouths in the OC movement, but I have generally dismissed this since there are loudmouths in EVERY movement and it annoyed me to no end that people assumed...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/26/2013 10:48:29 AM | Feedback (5)
For those of you not in the know, Starbucks has set a new policy to not allow guns in their stores nor in their seating areas all because a few people violated the top 2A Commandment – Thou shall not be a dick. Starbuck’s wanted nothing to do with this argument and wanted to remain as neutral as possible, which is a sound, corporate policy and something I’ve discussed previously. Instead, some people took it upon themselves to declare Starbucks as the quintessential Second Amendment Supporter...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/18/2013 9:11:43 AM | Feedback (36)
During our OC event this weekend, some of the guys were discussing how they heard some officer spout on about how OC is legal, but ill-advised as it may scare someone who will place a call which means they have toet send out officers to interrogate you and determine that you’re not a criminal and whatnot. This makes no sense to me. Let’s replace one completely legal activity with another and see if this holds water 911 Op: “What’s the emergency?”Caller: “There’s a man walking down the street...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 8/12/2013 11:33:02 AM | Feedback (11)
We did get one old guy who saw us, raised his hands in exasperation, then continued his walk. So, it wasn’t completely unnoticed. Still, one would think that in a state where OC wasn’t permitted in general there would be screaming and mass panic especially considering the pier we were at is immediately next to a children’s playground. By the way… I still hate fishing.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 8/12/2013 10:14:54 AM | Feedback (5)
While it is illegal to openly carry a gun unless you are fishing, hunting, or camping, it is a popular thing for older women and some men to walk around town loudly and visibly displaying a weapon. Sure, they’re repurposed broomsticks, golf clubs, or metal plumbing supplies, but as intent is non-transferable their original uses are no longer valid. A while back I wrote about a guy who I saw walk his dog in a rougher neighborhood with a golf club. It was mentioned that he may have been primarily...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 7/19/2013 9:52:12 AM | Feedback (11)
This is what happens when you accept that begging for permission to exercise a right is acceptable. Granted, I’m a bit of a hypocrite on this as I have a permit as well, but I’m not sure how to fight it at an individual level. Time and time again it has been proven that people who seek out permits are the least likely to commit crimes. This is because these are people who, because the law says you need to do X, actually go through the hoops to do X because they are law abiding. Removing the...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 7/8/2013 8:32:16 AM | Feedback (9)
THIS is how you do it
posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/15/2013 9:29:26 PM | Feedback (4)
Remember, a nice person with a gun makes guns nice for everyone. A jerk with a pistol makes guns seem scary. From ExUrban Kevin
posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/14/2013 10:46:19 AM | Feedback (1)
But hey… OPEN CARRY!
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/9/2013 1:35:12 PM | Feedback (11)
One thing about the Norman case I just posted that really chaffs my glutes are gun owners who get bent out of shape that we fight so hard for someone they don’t consider to be a perfect candidate. It’s easy to sweep Scummy McScumbags’ rights under the rug because ‘scumbag’. Then, when your rights are being trampled, suddenly it’s a big deal and you wonder why nobody can find any legal foothold to help. Dale Norman isn’t a perfect case, but perfect cases do not exist. Norman got his concealed...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/23/2013 9:02:15 AM | Feedback (9)
FL SUPREME COURT DENIES STATE ATTEMPT TO KILL RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS QUESTION On Friday, April 19, 2013, Florida’s Supreme Court denied a motion by the State Attorney to prohibit the Fourth District Court of Appeals from considering the appeal of a Concealed Carry Licensee who was convicted of violating Florida's Open Carry Ban and answering three questions which the county court considered to be of great public importance. The case at hand is State v. Norman. On February 19, 2012, Dale Norman,...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/23/2013 8:39:37 AM | Feedback (0)
Got this story from the Florida Carry group on Facebook So I was on my motorcycles on my way home from seeing a friend in Largo when I was pulled over by a Largo Police Officer. He came up to me and grabbed my shirt where my gun was and put a heavy duty paper clip to hold my shirt down and he said, now the cops won't have a reason to pull you over for accidentally open carrying, have a good night, oh and by the way, you owe me a paper clip and then he smiled got in his car and left. Many cops...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/7/2012 8:47:04 AM | Feedback (7)
On November 1st, Oklahoma will allow for Open Carry. Seems a lot of people want in on the bloodletting Firearms classes all over the area are filling up. If you're interested, you need to know it takes a few weeks to secure the proper license. Matthew Burton has been extremely busy lately. Burton said his phone has been ringing non-stop. He said concerned citizens are asking him when they can enroll in his firearms training class. Enrollment has more than doubled, since Governor Fallin...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/25/2012 11:08:05 AM | Feedback (5)
I’m thrilled that Florida has such a high demand for CCW permits that they need to open more offices and hire more people, but how about simply coming to terms with the fact that CCW permits do nothing to stop criminals from carrying guns anyway and do away with them? They have no effect on crime, provide no additional measure of public safety, and only act as an impediment to law abiding citizens. Constitutional Carry is the appropriate response to this, not simply ‘getting them done faster’.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/21/2012 10:14:36 AM | Feedback (21)
This weekend was Florida Carry’s monthly OC Fishing Event. I’m the coordinator for the Tampa area (you… yes, you who live near me. Shame on you for not joining us) and this month I managed to not screw up and show up at the wrong location. First off, it was gorgeous weather. Not hot, decent breeze, and you get the feeling that ‘Not Quite as Sweltering’ season is soon to be upon us. Before you know it, I will be bringing out the heavier short-sleeved shirts. The past few months were brutal, so...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/10/2012 8:43:42 AM | Feedback (4)
On my way to work, there are a few side streets I can take should the roads back up a bit. My detour takes me through some neighborhoods you’re more likely to see in old episodes of Cops than Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. A gentleman was walking his dog this morning, carrying an aluminum baseball bat. It was clear he wasn’t heading over to Jose Conseco’s house to practice and the way he was holding it at the low-ready indicated he intended to use it immediately if needed. As a bat, it was...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 8/29/2012 8:16:37 AM | Feedback (7)
And went directly to pounding my head on the desk What I want to talk about is perception of OC to the general public. I saw this video on The Chive, which is the website I go to when I don’t feel at all like doing my job and I want to look at funny pictures. The Chive also is extremely pro-military and LE, recently using their huge audience to raise several thousand dollars for a wounded EOD vet. Did I mention the part where they clear 2.5 million page views a day easily? So you have a...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 8/23/2012 11:56:04 AM | Feedback (9)
Florida Carry once again pushes for full Open Carry here in the Sunshine State. You’ll remember from last session that Open Carry was reduced to ‘brief exposure’. We argued that the term ‘brief’ was vague. We were right. Jacksonville attorney Eric Friday is the lead counsel for Florida Carry. Since the last open carry attempt failed in the 2010 session, they’ve been tracking instances (even some local) of concealed weapon permit holders who have been arrested and/or prosecuted for accidentally...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 8/10/2012 8:33:36 AM | Feedback (3)
Open Carry is the easiest way to get me to saddle up the Drama Llama and head blindly into battle. I am not claiming Rob Pincus is against Open Carry. If you watch the video, he’s not calling for it to be outlawed or anything. What I can tell you is that for someone who is complaining that a small subset of gun owners who act foolishly are harming the entire movement need to look in the mirror. It’s the ‘experts’ who are referred to during deliberations. “Why would anyone want to Open Carry?...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/22/2012 10:24:17 AM | Feedback (8)
Did my Open Carry fishing event this weekend. My oldest went with me for the first time and fell in love with fishing. She now wants her own pole and asked to go again next month. As unfishermanlike as I am, I still might just go ahead and take her sooner than that. Things that make my daughters happy are things I try not to only do once a month. Ooh! A lady fish! Now, the day was nice and the pier was busy, which is exactly what I want with these events. We got the occasional...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/14/2012 9:11:19 AM | Feedback (4)
Here’s the scenario. You’re in rural f’in Idaho where they frisk you before you walk into a bar, and if your gun is considered underpowered, they give you something with a bit more heft. You are openly carrying, well within the bounds of the law when you are approached by Officer Friendly Officer - Can I get you to untuck your shirt and cover up your sidearm? OC’er - Any particular reason? Open carry is still legal in Idaho right? Officer Yes, it is legal, but a lot of people have...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/20/2012 9:07:22 AM | Feedback (12)
Open carry of a light saber.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/12/2012 3:42:33 PM | Feedback (5)
Fairly even handed, although there is a preponderance of “scare quotes” and as many puns as allowed by the FDA in a single article T HE SIZZLING entrees won't be the only hot items at an Applebee's in Ridley Township on Saturday, when a couple of dozen folks mosey into the restaurant packing heat for a "meet-and-eat." With a side of firearms - or rather, with firearms at their side - the gun owners plan to gather for a meal and share their "common interest" of openly...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/8/2012 10:30:49 AM | Feedback (6)
Police chief instructs his officers to challenge black people “I don’t agree that black people should be allowed to openly walk around,” Anderson said. “I have instructed my officers to challenge any negro they see walking to make sure that they have the right to be there. Some people, like felons, cannot walk around. They (black people) will be treated with respect and dignity but they will be challenged.” Wait, his target of bigotry wasn’t blacks, but gun owners who openly carry “I...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/21/2012 8:54:15 AM | Feedback (8)
Rust!
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/3/2012 9:41:59 PM | Feedback (5)
Sean explains why there are limited opportunities to fix our gun rights here in Florida. As a side note, when I challenge people to find actual cases of someone OC’ing that resulted in a loss of gun rights, I actually know of a few. That there story contains one.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/20/2011 8:40:12 AM | Feedback (3)
I don’t really have a dog treat I think you’ve been put on the defensive on this topic enough that it’s turning into a reflex. Yes. I have. I apologize if my instant response to a negative OC story was Pavlovian. It comes from battling gun owners fighting me to keep OC from being legal here in Florida.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/7/2011 11:08:40 AM | Feedback (6)
But you’ve heard it all before. So, I’ll just keep it short. To say Open Carry makes you a target based on one or two incidents every few years is the same as the anti’s saying one or two CCW holders committing crimes represents all of us. Like Uncle says, as OC becomes more prevalent, there will be more cases of people having their gun taken from them, but to assume that OC is dangerous is just as silly as saying carrying a gun is dangerous and therefore you shouldn’t do it! The added danger...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/7/2011 9:13:00 AM | Feedback (12)
Sometimes, though, it scares the right people Azmat: I think those guys were rob me. Me: I agree. Azmat: You scare them off? Me: I didn't say a word to them. Azmat: Your gun scare them off. Me: Perhaps. You should call the police
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/29/2011 9:06:08 AM | Feedback (7)
With the work that we do as activists, we have a tendency to focus on getting our message out to those who do not see things the way we do. Part of why Florida Carry has monthly Open Carry Fishing Events is so that we can get out in front of people in a low key affair. Yes, this is the dreaded “Open Carry as activism” that so many gunnies deride, but it has a positive impact and shouldn’t be dismissed. We choose fishing piers because of two reasons. One, because we are fishing, Open Carry is...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/14/2011 12:47:53 PM | Feedback (5)
A lesbian couple who caused a commotion recently when they refused to conceal their orientation while at Mesker Park Zoo & Botanic Garden were within their rights to do so, but law enforcement and a gay-rights expert questioned why they chose not to conceal their sexuality when asked. … Kajmowicz questioned the women’s motives to display their sexual orientation in an area where children were present, including his own. "They felt like (it was) their right to display it...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/19/2011 10:54:01 AM | Feedback (1)
I would be remiss if I didn’t report that this past weekend, there was an actual problem at one of the Open Carry fishing events held by Florida Carry. At the Fort Lauderdale event, three deputies arrived as one of our members was packing up. The first words out of the deputy’s mouth were “If you touch your gun, you will get shot.” That was not the appropriate introduction from an officer. Now, the rest of the encounter went smoothly. There were no arrests, no arguments, and most...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/13/2011 9:00:58 AM | Feedback (10)
So this Saturday I hosted Florida Carry’s monthly overtly political, in your face, ‘look at me I crave attention’ Open Carry fishing event at the North Skyway Fishing Pier. This was a change from our normal venue and since the best we’ve been able to do is give an elderly lady the vapors over an AR-15 pistol, we figured we could scare more people at a larger pier. Alas, no luck here either. Now, not only was I trying to be an over-the-top, over-compensating gun owner like I’ve been told, I...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/12/2011 1:20:09 PM | Feedback (10)
Almost as bad at projection as anti-gunners Trying to separate the politics from OC is hard to do. 9 out of 10 times people who OC do so as armed activists. They do so for the shock value. They do so for the attention, negative included, that accompanies OC. While they will tell you that they OC for ‘tactical” reason, this is the same crowd who seems to despise formal training, and rarely shoots their OC gun. Ain’t no question that there are some very loud Open Carry people, just like...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/6/2011 2:12:20 PM | Feedback (16)
I’ll be the first to admit that I was displeased with the outcome of Senate Bill 234 and Open Carry here in Florida. While the logic was sound on the merits and morality of Open Carry, we had strong opposition from both the Florida Retail Federation (who didn’t want to be forced to make a decision between law abiding carriers and PSH patrons) as well as the Sheriff’s Association. Sadly, neither group had a coherent or logical argument against Open Carry, instead they resorted to lies,...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 8/30/2011 9:07:32 AM | Feedback (1)
We need Floridians help pushing the OC Petition to over 10,000. Go. Click. Help.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 7/21/2011 8:29:15 AM | Feedback (2)
Sure, I made some BBQ and spaghetti sauces from scratch, cleaned the patio, and a few other items around the house, but that was it. The only way it could have been less eventful would have been to OC in Massachusetts New Hampshire while riding a Harley. Granted, I wasn’t asked by Wal-Mart to conceal my heater, but if I ever was, this is the best way to handle it – cover it, finish your shopping, then wait until you get home to write a letter to their offices. Leaping up on the POS scanner,..
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/6/2011 9:07:22 AM | Feedback (3)
Look, I realize sometimes we, as gun owners, feel a need to promote ourselves and whatnot, and I can appreciate what Breda and crew are doing here, but I gotta say that the Blogger Open Carry Event scheduled for the 5th is simply going to be a non-event. I know we’ve been told that people will run screaming, that mothers will shield the eyes of their children from the horror of a pistol openly worn on someone’s hip, and mass hysteria will break out over the blood spilled, but I’m sorry –...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/26/2011 8:57:57 AM | Feedback (13)
Philly OC Abuse Case Getting Media Attention Folks might remember the YouTube sensation from a month or so ago of a Philadelphia man who was threatened by a Philadelphia Police officer for legally carrying a firearm. You might also remember that the City is charging him with reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct. This weekend activists held a protest to demonstrate against this kind of treatment. This, to me, is a textbook example of how to use open carry effectively as a form of...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/16/2011 7:14:36 PM | Feedback (2)
JP has a great story A few years back I was practicing my right to openly carry a firearm, while I was standing in line at a convenience store waiting to purchase a cup of coffee. There was a woman in line in front of me with her 6 or 7 year old son. He had been moving around a bit, like kids do, and saw the pistol on my belt. He looked up at me and asked “are you a cop?” and I told him no. He then went and tugged on the sleeve of his mom’s shirt and asked her “why does he have a gun?” ...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/16/2011 2:19:48 PM | Feedback (1)
Doesn’t mean Texas needs to follow in our footsteps We're running out of time to get Texas HB 2756 (Open Carry) passed this legislative session. The last day to get a vote on this one is Thursday. If we miss this opportunity, we won't have another opportunity until 2013 (the Texas legislature only meets once every two years). I'd appreciate it very much if you could get this information out to your readers. Thank you. You in Texas? Then why are you reading this? You should be on the horn...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/10/2011 12:12:59 PM | Feedback (4)
Open Carry passes TX House. Hopefully they don’t have senators looking to gut it like we did.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 5/4/2011 9:32:49 AM | Feedback (3)
Sorry ladies and gentlemen, but for all our hard work, we weren’t able to overcome a last minute gutting by Senator Ellyn Bogdanoff (R-Fort Lauderdale) on Senate Bill 234. Since some groups were pushing this as nothing more than a safety measure to prevent CCW holders from being harassed for accidental exposure (*cough* thanksahellofalot NRA *cough*), Senator Bogdanoff was able to completely change the intent of the bill. I’m not even sure why there were committees to begin with if a) you can...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/29/2011 10:38:12 AM | Feedback (18)
Been thinking of this one for a while, and with the vote on Open Carry coming up on Wednesday (and it’s going to be a close one folks – pester your misrepresentatives) I figured it’s time to have this talk. I’ve been known in the past to defend the idiots who carry shotguns in the library, not because I believe them to be doing a good thing, but because the freak out over it is disproportionate to the damage they possibly can cause. Most of the battle we’ve had against OC hasn’t been from...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/26/2011 11:12:25 AM | Feedback (20)
Members and friends, We’re down to the wire. On Wednesday, the Senate will vote on SB 234. This bill includes open carry, vehicle carry, DOACS fingerprint authorization, and long gun/shotgun contiguous state purchase authorization. Of course, the most contentious element is open carry. This is going to be a squeaker, folks. By now, the Senators should have already made up their minds. Nonetheless, Florida Carry is requesting one last push to deliver this baby. We’ve shown the untruthful...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/26/2011 8:55:04 AM | Feedback (8)
And it passed the Judiciary Committee. One more to go and it hits the floor.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/13/2011 1:35:59 PM | Feedback (2)
Sadly, there is no rest in our push to regain our rights. Every time we clear one hurdle, another one pops up. Today at 1PM, the Judiciary committee is meeting and Senator Bogdanoff has introduced a poison amendment into SB234 in a prelude to killing OC outright.   Here is the release from Florida Carry.   Members and friends,   Late today, Sen. Ellyn Bogdanoff (R-Fort Lauderdale), introduced a committee amendment to SB 234. This bill meets the Judiciary Committee...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 4/12/2011 8:31:16 AM | Feedback (4)
FLORIDA CARRY, INC. LEGISLATIVE ALERT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – March 31, 2011 SB 234 – Open Carry/Vehicle Storage/Long Gun Statute Repeal Bill Stalled in Senate Judiciary Committee Members and friends, SB 234’s companion bill has expeditiously completed its journey through committee and is waiting to be heard on the House floor. For some undisclosed reason, SB 234 has been stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee since March 16. Normally, the chairperson of the committee is responsible for..
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/31/2011 9:06:00 AM | Feedback (3)
HB 517, the  house version of the Open Carry bill, passed by a 10 to 3 (2 abstaining). Next stop, the floor! From what I’ve read, the overriding contention was that the opposition could not cite a single case where OC was an issue in any other state where it is law. Even Rep Julian (D-Miami) voted in favor. MIAMI. That’s like the New York City of Florida. Now, the votes were as follows Y Baxley Y Glorioso Y Julien Y Pilon Y Tobia - Bullard Y Grant Y...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/24/2011 9:40:00 PM | Feedback (3)
Mass hysteria doesn’t break out That’s right – by the end of my extremely nerve racking foray the entire Apple Store was discussing my gun range, two guys had asked me about ARs and another about leagues.  As the right person with the right attitude in the right setting I managed to take open carry and turn it into advertising for West Coast Armory. When you OC, you’re going to be an ambassador for the gun community. I have a LOT to write about this later, but suffice it to say...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/22/2011 12:53:22 PM | Feedback (7)
3 to 2 voting. The level of misinformation presented was staggering. It’s amazing anything can ever get through with people twisting facts like that.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/14/2011 2:20:53 PM | Feedback (23)
If you’re in Texas, please help get HB 2756 sponsored.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/14/2011 12:40:15 PM | Feedback (1)
Tomorrow, the vote to move SB234 out of committee appears to be hinging on Senator Dean. You may recall the non-committal response asking for his support a while back, and word is that he is still wobbly on this issue. Without Dean’s vote, this bill will die on the vine, so it is important to contact his office quickly and make sure he knows that Floridians support this bill and that his vote matters. Be polite. Be firm. But most of all, write or call.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/13/2011 6:41:36 PM | Feedback (4)
Looks like a solid majority approve of SB 234 Two recent surveys of likely voters living in north Florida find strong support for Senate Bill 234. Voters surveyed in the north central Florida counties that comprise state senate district 3 favor the measure by a wide margin (58%-14%). The bill also draws approval by a larger margin (62%-12%) in the northwest Florida counties that make up state senate districts 2 & 4. Support among males came in around 78%. (PDF of the reports can be...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/12/2011 7:40:16 PM | Feedback (0)
Senate Bill 234 has been amended to remove the offensive provisions I discussed yesterday. 19 ...Any person in compliance with the terms of 20 such license may carry a concealed weapon or concealed firearm 21 notwithstanding the provisions of s. 790.01, or may carry openly 22 notwithstanding s. 790.053. The licensee must carry the license, 23 together with valid identification, at all times in which the 24 licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/11/2011 6:14:47 PM | Feedback (9)
As most of you know, SB 234’s two primary elements, open carry and campus carry, have been gutted by committee amendments. These amendments were proposed, accepted, and integrated into the bill without public comment or discussion. On February 22, 2011, the father of Ashley Cowie, the FSU student who was killed in an off-campus incident, presented an impassioned plea against the campus carry element of SB 234. Ashley was killed by a student who was too young to get a concealed weapons/firearms.
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/10/2011 4:30:31 PM | Feedback (10)
And yet they still put me on TV From ABC Action News All in all, not a bad performance on my part although you see me shoot more than I speak. The shooting was interesting because I didn't think that was going to be part of the interview and only had 15+1 rounds on me, so I had to take my time. The reporter did a pretty good job editing it to make me look like I was shooting a bit more than I was (Yes, I shot high because I was only out at 7 yards). News being news, my 15 minutes of...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 3/2/2011 8:25:44 AM | Feedback (44)
Well, I just committed a crime. My oldest is selling Girl Scout cookies at the local grocery store and her mother had forgotten her sash, so I picked up my youngest and headed over. Today it’s right at 80° so shorts and a light t-shirt were all that was required. Since we were out of bread, I went ahead and picked some up while I was there. Putting my youngest back in her car seat, I was required to lean over to get the belt buckle in. A light breeze came by and managed to push my shirt...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/26/2011 10:53:57 AM | Feedback (7)
Now, my last post was meant to be sarcasm and humor and not to be construed as a complete argument. I’ve already gotten wind that feathers have been ruffled, and it’s interesting to see that when I apply my snark to certain people, I’m lauded for it, but against others I’m called names you don’t use in front of drunken sailors in fear of harming their delicate sensibilities. Open Carry is a sore spot for me. I’m trying to get it legalized here in Florida while some in other states seem to be...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/20/2011 3:55:02 PM | Feedback (17)
I remember the pep talk Gunnery Sargent Alpo gave us like it was yesterday. We had been patrolling the dates and grains market in Diwaniyeh for weeks. After months of hard work, the coalition had finally convinced a large enough portion of the populace to fight back against thieves and insurgents and the resulting drop in attacks and crime bore the fruit of that long struggle. “Superior Tactics!” yelled Gunny Alpo. “We will use superior tactics to continue to keep the terrorists at bay!” Most...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/20/2011 11:46:51 AM | Feedback (2)
Right now, there’s every indication that SB234 will make it out of committee and so far it’s looking really good that the most comprehensive gun rights bill since Shall Issue passed in ‘86 will make its way to the Governor’s desk, which Governor Scott has already said he’d sign. Then, with that as law, Floridians will be able to carry more places as well as do so openly. I totally plan on OC’ing more than the average gun owner. For one, I’m an activist. Two, I believe it to be a better...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/18/2011 11:09:35 PM | Feedback (27)
Michigan firearm activists get city to reconsider its ban on open carry Village officials began researching the issue after they were approached by a gun rights organization that said the village's ordinance was not valid under state law, Stoker said. And the did so probably without nary a shotgun in any library!
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/18/2011 4:14:11 PM | Feedback (0)
Since the saddle for the Drama Llama is so comfortable from getting rather broken in, let’s continue this ride. What you reap, you shall sow -  From Say Uncle  Library takes out restraining order against OC activists. And intends to sue. This is what happens when you’re a jerk. Now, I’m not 100% convinced that the complaints are true. As gun owners, we know we can be as polite as can be and still have people say “They were very threatening to others”, but honestly, when someone...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/18/2011 11:03:42 AM | Feedback (13)
You’re wrong. You should see my hits!
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/18/2011 9:33:08 AM | Feedback (4)
When the anti-gunners bring up articles about a CCW holder getting in trouble with the law, they like to use it as ‘proof’ that CCW permits are a bad idea. We soundly mock them over this bit of stupidity. However, one young adult carries a shotgun into a library, something that is perfectly legal, and some gun owners are claiming that this single event is pretty much going to get the AWB reinstated and Heller overturned. Yeah, that’s a bit of hyperbole, but the following comments from over at...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/17/2011 8:53:07 PM | Feedback (35)
When it comes to activism, there is a fine line between getting your message across and being a complete jerk. Unfortunately that line is poorly defined and sometimes changes location right under your feet. You have to get your message out, in public, and you’re doing this specifically for those who do not share your point of view and in that sense, it’s practically guaranteed that somebody is going to get their feathers ruffled. However, to get your message across, often you have to risk it. ..
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/17/2011 12:48:41 PM | Feedback (16)
Sebastian talks about ‘going too far’ with OC’ing long arms UPDATE: OTOH, if the folks who are engaging in attention seeking behavior now need to up the ante to rifles, because pistols just don’t grab attention like they used to, maybe there is something to the OC theory. And I both hope and believe he is right. At my events, very few people actually notice the firearms. It took a guy with an AR pistol slung across his back to get us noticed one time. But in the comments, Sebastian says...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/16/2011 2:48:44 PM | Feedback (29)
In a recent news article, Senator Ellen Bogdanoff (R) spoke against Senate Bill 234 that would allow Floridians the choice as to if they openly carry their firearms or not by saying there is a way to solve the ‘printing’ issue without allowing Open Carry. I have written her a polite email and, if you are a Floridian, I  ask that you do the same. My letter is as follows Dear Senator Bogdanoff, I am writing concerning your position on Open Carry outlined in the Sun Sentinel...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/31/2011 8:00:27 PM | Feedback (5)
Wyoming senate passes Constitutional Carry. Still has to go through the House, but it looks good for Wyoming. We at Florida Carry are paying close attention to these events and will be following in the footsteps as time goes on. Our first goal is to get Open Carry legalized. While Constitutional Carry is a great goal, it wasn’t something that was politically feasible. A bill to demand Constitutional Carry would not have seen the light of day whereas the bills for OC and adding teeth to...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/25/2011 11:22:18 AM | Feedback (4)
Unfortunately, the article I had the link to is pay only, but suffice it to say the push to get Open Carry in Florida is still on and lawmakers realize that the actions of an insane person have no bearing on the right to keep and bear arms. “I have no reservations about pushing the bill, we are one of four states that doesn’t have open carry. It’s the right thing to do,” said Senate Criminal Justice Chairman Greg Evers, R-Baker. “The only way to stop a perpetrator is with equal force.” ...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/15/2011 4:35:19 PM | Feedback (2)
Today we had the Open Carry Fishing event. This time around, I was the event coordinator so it was my responsibility to contact the city attorney’s office and ensure the police were informed of our group meeting. The CA was thankful that our group was considerate enough to always call his office and he was more than happy to help us out. The event started at 10, and it was a nice day to fish. A bit of a chill in the air, but my jacket wound up on the ground (you can see it in the pic) because...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/8/2011 9:26:30 PM | Feedback (8)
Just got off the phone with the City Attorney who is the liaison for the Police Department. He was more than happy to help coordinate with the local patrols to let them know we would have our Open Carry fishing event tomorrow. We spoke for a few minutes about the events. He was curious to know people’s reactions were which I explained were generally curious to borderline nonexistent. If you’re in Tampa, please feel free to drop by Ballast Point pier. We should be there from 10-Noon.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/7/2011 9:40:46 AM | Feedback (2)
But yes, Open Carry is coming to Florida. Now, already I’m seeing the pushback from people complaining that SB-234 still requires licensure and that we shouldn’t license a right. I agree, but what exactly should we do? Unlicensed Open Carry was a dead issue. It would not  see the light of day, period. It appears there are people who seem to be under the impression that you can just type of a list of your demands, hand it to a senator, and he or she will sign it and it becomes law pretty...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 1/3/2011 3:53:01 PM | Feedback (9)
Senate Bill 234 has been introduced Firearms: Provides that a person in compliance with the terms of a concealed carry license may carry openly notwithstanding specified provisions. Allows the Division of Licensing of the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to take fingerprints from concealed carry license applicants. Limits a prohibition on carrying a concealed weapon or firearm into an elementary or secondary school facility, career center, or college or university facility to...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/11/2010 9:52:42 AM | Feedback (7)
Discussing Open Carry with a cohort of mine, I came up with this analogy
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/16/2010 8:25:54 AM | Feedback (5)
Now, I know what you’re thinking. You’re thinking that toast makes a great midnight snack, and I can’t disagree with you there. You might also be thinking “Good golly, Robb is talking a lot about open carry lately” and you’d be right there too! However, I see two problems that we seem to be arguing over and I want to clarify them here so that we don’t confuse the two issues, namely the legality of open carry and the benefits of. From what I’ve read in the comments, I don’t think there are too...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/12/2010 9:40:50 AM | Feedback (16)
And I guarantee you at least 1 of them will do something so monumentally stupid today that you wonder how the human race ever got past the whole wheel thing. Now, extrapolate that number to the millions, and you’re going to have a tremendous force of stupidity to deal with. The reason I am bringing this up is because of what appears to me to be the raison d'être of the pro gunner argument against open carry, namely that all it takes is one idiot to Open Carry in some fashion that totally...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/11/2010 4:22:21 PM | Feedback (7)
5 states at a time Having held five events over the weekend, Second Amendment advocates continue to promote changing laws in Florida to allow citizens to openly carry holstered handguns. Open carry was legal in Florida until 1987 when Janet Reno, then an assistant state attorney in South Florida, lobbied the Legislature to ban the practice save in some situations -- namely hunting, fishing and at firing ranges. Hat tip Snowflakes in Hell. Sebastian does not particularly care for OC as a...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/10/2010 3:33:09 PM | Feedback (8)
From Say Uncle comes this story about UK Soldiers* Cadets not being able to carry their rifles because they might ‘upset’ some people. I seem to be having the same conversation about open carry with nominally ‘pro gun’ people. Don’t carry openly because you might upset people!!! OH NOES! Because there seems to be a black hole in some people’s understanding of my position, let me clarify it here – I want Open Carry to be legal here in Florida (and in every other state, but I can only work...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/8/2010 10:03:44 AM | Feedback (6)
Watch this ‘exciting’ video to find out Not on this video was the one elderly lady who I ran into immediate upon arrival. She was nearly in a panic on the phone with someone that some guy had a ‘machine gun’. I calmly explained that he was simply openly carrying a firearm which was legal if he was fishing. She stormed off in a huff saying “well, I don’t see why anyone needs a machine gun”. Other than that? A few looks an an inquiry or two, no panic and no blood in the water (minus any the...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/6/2010 8:03:55 PM | Feedback (19)
Sean Caranna is the founder of Florida Open Carry. He’s got a television interview coming up where he is debating someone who is Pro-2A, but anti Open Carry. One slight problem A Tampa TV station wants to do a 4-minute point/counterpoint piece on open carry, but they are having a hard time finding someone who is pro 2A but anti open carry.  All of the anti-2A people they have found have been nut balls!  They called police agencies in the Tampa area but no one is anti open carry! ...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 11/4/2010 4:08:49 PM | Feedback (73)
Here are three polls regarding Open Carry in Florida and how they are worded POLL: Guns in the open The "open carry" movement advocates are pushing legislation in Florida that would let people openly tote their guns. Do you support the move? Poll: Florida handgun owners Should Florida handgun owners be allowed to carry their weapons in the open? Should Floridians be allowed to carry weapons openly? No way. We have already given the gun lovers too much freedom...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/26/2010 1:38:22 PM | Feedback (1)
But no, I don’t think whitey is scared by open carry. Now, caveats abound – Gun activists (like myself) find these polls easier than the non-interested, so we’re going to be a bit more likely to have a higher representation than we do in real life. However, even here in Florida where OC is illegal, you’re going to see that most people really wouldn’t care. I believe that if OC was permitted here, very few people would actually engage in it, especially in the beginning. I would, but that’s...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/22/2010 9:20:27 AM | Feedback (13)
When it comes to Open Carry, I’m less concerned about the Brady Campaign and their pathetic mouthpieces like japete than I am about some pro-gun people and their disdain for the practice. Take for example this “I’m a gun owner but…” gentleman discussing the possibility of Open Carry here in the Sunshine state. Read the whole article, listen to the condescension as it just drips from the article. In fact, just the closing should tell you all you need to know about this guy So those...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/21/2010 12:46:40 PM | Feedback (24)
How about hunting for a good bargain? One of the grey areas of Open Carry here in Florida comes from 790.25 section 3h (h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition; There's a group of people who apparently set up OC fishing events. I need to find out more about that. I hate fishing, but I'm willing to walk around with some lures and a rod for a while!
posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/13/2010 12:36:33 PM | Feedback (13)
From the news reports I've read, the ban on Open Carry in California is dead. This means millions of Californians can continue to harm the 2A Movement by openly displaying their firearms rather than stay in the closet, where it is most effective. Remember, you might think you're helping the Second Amendment by using it openly, but you're not. The only way to advance our cause is to automatically and reflexively compromise our principles! FDA Warning – This article may contain higher levels of.
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 9/1/2010 11:29:44 AM | Feedback (5)
Amazing what a little historical perspective can add to the conversation Thinking about the history lesson that McDonald tells, it is also worth considering the extent to which gun-rights activism itself has been distorted by this history. If you look at Second Amendment-equivalents passed in state constitutions during the mid- and late-1800s, a bizarre number of them refer to concealed carry. Incidentally, this seems to be more true of states in the South than in other places; indeed, the...
posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/30/2010 8:35:22 AM | Feedback (3)
For the pants wetters who fear Open Carry makes you a target of criminals Stan says: Not OC'ing because someone might target you for your gun is like not driving a Porsche because you might get carjacked. If you fundamentally alter your life just to suit the criminals then they've pretty much already won. That's about as succinct as it can be put.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/11/2010 12:48:26 PM | Feedback (6)
Before you get up in arms about this, remember this story. The dude who got robbed while OC'ing doesn't prove that OC'ers are targeted for their decision to openly carry any more than that one story proved open carry prevents Waffle House robberies. OC still needs to be the default and should be 100% legal everywhere. As a Floridian, my clothing options always include the possibility of accidental exposure / printing. With OC, this wouldn't be an issue. I have no issue with people who..
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 6/10/2010 3:23:47 PM | Feedback (6)
Anecdotal, true, but a powerful one at that Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell were dining in the Wafflehouse on Barrett Parkway at I-575 in Kennesaw at 4:45 in the morning recently when a scout for an armed robbery crew entered the restaurant to case it.  At the time, Matt and J.P. thought he looked a little suspicious, as he was wandering around the small restaurant like he was looking for someone.  Unknown to Matt and J.P., two cars full of armed robbers where parked behind the...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 2/18/2010 7:12:38 PM | Feedback (12)
They finally have a good story to pin on everyone why OC is such a terrible idea. Security guard today just tried to physically dis-arm me. Grabbed my right arm with his left hand and attempted to grab my pistol grip with his right. Elbow to the face and a back step rear kick/shin scrape to his right knee/shin...turned and hit him with a full body roundhouse punch. Knocked his a$$ out cold. Because the cops were called I can't give full details until everything is settled but it was at a...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 12/31/2009 11:50:24 AM | Feedback (21)
The fool went and open carried for the first time. Doesn't he know that his trip to Wal-Mart was a risky piece of political theater that sets us back decades? There's a time and place for open carry, and a simple shopping trip isn't one of them. You should only open carry where nobody will notice in order to avoid scaring anyone or getting negative media attention. Period. Because you may think you're helping the cause, but you're not. Or so I've been told.
posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/17/2009 11:38:01 AM | Feedback (12)
When your own side is firmly against you? My earlier post had nothing to do with Sebastian directly. He just happened to, like clockwork, chime in about open carrying in his usual manner. You see, to Sebastian, everything is political and a PR stunt. There is a time and place to open carry, to exercise your rights, but so far, Sebastian has yet to find a single instance where he thinks it is OK to do so. And trust me, he believes his view on the matter is the final word. For example I am...
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/12/2009 2:52:21 PM | Feedback (42)
That's the gist of many gunnies I read, and it pisses me the hell off. I can't OC because even though I live in a place that has some of the least restrictive carry laws, OC is still verboten. However, if it was allowed tomorrow, I'd OC most of the time. One, I don't buy into the whole Super Mall Ninja "I'll keep it hidden so I can surprise my attacker" shit, nor do I think the chances of me not being able to keep my gun out of the fight are worth weighing (how many of you have ever..
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posted by by Robb Allen @ 10/12/2009 9:51:43 AM | Feedback (25)
Sharp As A Marble is just me, Robb Allen. I enjoy my life here in sunny Tampa, Florida where I work as a computer programmer for a small software company. When I'm not trying to save the world from bad code, my hobbies include firearms, guns, shooting things and putting holes in things that require holes in them from a safe distance. I also have a hobby of picking up new hobbies. All my hobbies seem to be expensive. This irritates my wife. Speaking of the wife, I'm married to a wonderful...
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