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A legitimate case against Open Carry
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2/3/2012 9:41:59 PM
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Small windows
Sean explains why there are limited opportunities to fix our gun rights here in Florida. As a side note, when I challenge people to find actual cases of someone OC’ing that resulted in a loss of gun rights, I actually know of a few. That there story contains one.
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12/20/2011 8:40:12 AM
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Easy boy! Down! It was just a bell
I don’t really have a dog treat I think you’ve been put on the defensive on this topic enough that it’s turning into a reflex. Yes. I have. I apologize if my instant response to a negative OC story was Pavlovian. It comes from battling gun owners fighting me to keep OC from being legal here in Florida.
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12/7/2011 11:08:40 AM
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I have a 9,000 word post about this
But you’ve heard it all before. So, I’ll just keep it short. To say Open Carry makes you a target based on one or two incidents every few years is the same as the anti’s saying one or two CCW holders committing crimes represents all of us. Like Uncle says, as OC becomes more prevalent, there will be more cases of people having their gun taken from them, but to assume that OC is dangerous is just as silly as saying carrying a gun is dangerous and therefore you shouldn’t do it! The added danger...
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12/7/2011 9:13:00 AM
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Why can’t you understand that Open Carry scares people?
Sometimes, though, it scares the right people Azmat: I think those guys were rob me. Me: I agree. Azmat: You scare them off? Me: I didn't say a word to them. Azmat: Your gun scare them off. Me: Perhaps. You should call the police
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11/29/2011 9:06:08 AM
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Even the like minded require attention
With the work that we do as activists, we have a tendency to focus on getting our message out to those who do not see things the way we do. Part of why Florida Carry has monthly Open Carry Fishing Events is so that we can get out in front of people in a low key affair. Yes, this is the dreaded “Open Carry as activism” that so many gunnies deride, but it has a positive impact and shouldn’t be dismissed. We choose fishing piers because of two reasons. One, because we are fishing, Open Carry is...
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11/14/2011 12:47:53 PM
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Gay couple asked to leave zoo after refusing to stop holding hands
A lesbian couple who caused a commotion recently when they refused to conceal their orientation while at Mesker Park Zoo & Botanic Garden were within their rights to do so, but law enforcement and a gay-rights expert questioned why they chose not to conceal their sexuality when asked. … Kajmowicz questioned the women’s motives to display their sexual orientation in an area where children were present, including his own. "They felt like (it was) their right to display it...
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9/19/2011 10:54:01 AM
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Why Open Carry can be an effective, political tool
I would be remiss if I didn’t report that this past weekend, there was an actual problem at one of the Open Carry fishing events held by Florida Carry. At the Fort Lauderdale event, three deputies arrived as one of our members was packing up. The first words out of the deputy’s mouth were “If you touch your gun, you will get shot.” That was not the appropriate introduction from an officer. Now, the rest of the encounter went smoothly. There were no arrests, no arguments, and most...
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9/13/2011 9:00:58 AM
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Technically, there was blood in the water
So this Saturday I hosted Florida Carry’s monthly overtly political, in your face, ‘look at me I crave attention’ Open Carry fishing event at the North Skyway Fishing Pier. This was a change from our normal venue and since the best we’ve been able to do is give an elderly lady the vapors over an AR-15 pistol, we figured we could scare more people at a larger pier. Alas, no luck here either. Now, not only was I trying to be an over-the-top, over-compensating gun owner like I’ve been told, I...
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9/12/2011 1:20:09 PM
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Open Carry haters
Almost as bad at projection as anti-gunners Trying to separate the politics from OC is hard to do. 9 out of 10 times people who OC do so as armed activists. They do so for the shock value. They do so for the attention, negative included, that accompanies OC. While they will tell you that they OC for ‘tactical” reason, this is the same crowd who seems to despise formal training, and rarely shoots their OC gun. Ain’t no question that there are some very loud Open Carry people, just like...
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9/6/2011 2:12:20 PM
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Any means necessary
I’ll be the first to admit that I was displeased with the outcome of Senate Bill 234 and Open Carry here in Florida. While the logic was sound on the merits and morality of Open Carry, we had strong opposition from both the Florida Retail Federation (who didn’t want to be forced to make a decision between law abiding carriers and PSH patrons) as well as the Sheriff’s Association. Sadly, neither group had a coherent or logical argument against Open Carry, instead they resorted to lies,...
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8/30/2011 9:07:32 AM
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The fight for Open Carry in Florida is still on
We need Floridians help pushing the OC Petition to over 10,000. Go. Click. Help.
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7/21/2011 8:29:15 AM
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My weekend was uneventful
Sure, I made some BBQ and spaghetti sauces from scratch, cleaned the patio, and a few other items around the house, but that was it. The only way it could have been less eventful would have been to OC in Massachusetts New Hampshire while riding a Harley. Granted, I wasn’t asked by Wal-Mart to conceal my heater, but if I ever was, this is the best way to handle it – cover it, finish your shopping, then wait until you get home to write a letter to their offices. Leaping up on the POS scanner,...
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6/6/2011 9:07:22 AM
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I hate to be Negative Nancy, but this isn’t going to amount to anything
Look, I realize sometimes we, as gun owners, feel a need to promote ourselves and whatnot, and I can appreciate what Breda and crew are doing here, but I gotta say that the Blogger Open Carry Event scheduled for the 5th is simply going to be a non-event. I know we’ve been told that people will run screaming, that mothers will shield the eyes of their children from the horror of a pistol openly worn on someone’s hip, and mass hysteria will break out over the blood spilled, but I’m sorry –...
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5/26/2011 8:57:57 AM
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And it was done without being in-your-face about it
Philly OC Abuse Case Getting Media Attention Folks might remember the YouTube sensation from a month or so ago of a Philadelphia man who was threatened by a Philadelphia Police officer for legally carrying a firearm. You might also remember that the City is charging him with reckless endangerment and disorderly conduct. This weekend activists held a protest to demonstrate against this kind of treatment. This, to me, is a textbook example of how to use open carry effectively as a form of...
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5/16/2011 7:14:36 PM
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We need more mothers like this
JP has a great story A few years back I was practicing my right to openly carry a firearm, while I was standing in line at a convenience store waiting to purchase a cup of coffee. There was a woman in line in front of me with her 6 or 7 year old son. He had been moving around a bit, like kids do, and saw the pistol on my belt. He looked up at me and asked “are you a cop?” and I told him no. He then went and tugged on the sleeve of his mom’s shirt and asked her “why does he have a gun?” ...
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5/16/2011 2:19:48 PM
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Just because Florida screwed it up
Doesn’t mean Texas needs to follow in our footsteps We're running out of time to get Texas HB 2756 (Open Carry) passed this legislative session. The last day to get a vote on this one is Thursday. If we miss this opportunity, we won't have another opportunity until 2013 (the Texas legislature only meets once every two years). I'd appreciate it very much if you could get this information out to your readers. Thank you. You in Texas? Then why are you reading this? You should be on the horn...
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5/10/2011 12:12:59 PM
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I wish Texas better luck than we had
Open Carry passes TX House. Hopefully they don’t have senators looking to gut it like we did.
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5/4/2011 9:32:49 AM
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As of now, no Open Carry for Floridians
Sorry ladies and gentlemen, but for all our hard work, we weren’t able to overcome a last minute gutting by Senator Ellyn Bogdanoff (R-Fort Lauderdale) on Senate Bill 234. Since some groups were pushing this as nothing more than a safety measure to prevent CCW holders from being harassed for accidental exposure (*cough* thanksahellofalot NRA *cough*), Senator Bogdanoff was able to completely change the intent of the bill. I’m not even sure why there were committees to begin with if a) you can...
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4/29/2011 10:38:12 AM
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On PETA and Open Carry
Been thinking of this one for a while, and with the vote on Open Carry coming up on Wednesday (and it’s going to be a close one folks – pester your misrepresentatives) I figured it’s time to have this talk. I’ve been known in the past to defend the idiots who carry shotguns in the library, not because I believe them to be doing a good thing, but because the freak out over it is disproportionate to the damage they possibly can cause. Most of the battle we’ve had against OC hasn’t been from...
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4/26/2011 11:12:25 AM
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SB 234 – On Senate Special Calendar for April 27, 2011
Members and friends, We’re down to the wire. On Wednesday, the Senate will vote on SB 234. This bill includes open carry, vehicle carry, DOACS fingerprint authorization, and long gun/shotgun contiguous state purchase authorization. Of course, the most contentious element is open carry. This is going to be a squeaker, folks. By now, the Senators should have already made up their minds. Nonetheless, Florida Carry is requesting one last push to deliver this baby. We’ve shown the untruthful...
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4/26/2011 8:55:04 AM
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For some good news–SB234 had the poison amendment removed
And it passed the Judiciary Committee. One more to go and it hits the floor.
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4/13/2011 1:35:59 PM
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SB 234 – Bogdanoff Committee Amendment a Prelude to Killing OC
Sadly, there is no rest in our push to regain our rights. Every time we clear one hurdle, another one pops up. Today at 1PM, the Judiciary committee is meeting and Senator Bogdanoff has introduced a poison amendment into SB234 in a prelude to killing OC outright. Here is the release from Florida Carry. Members and friends, Late today, Sen. Ellyn Bogdanoff (R-Fort Lauderdale), introduced a committee amendment to SB 234. This bill meets the Judiciary Committee...
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4/12/2011 8:31:16 AM
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FL Open Carry Bill Stalled in Committee
FLORIDA CARRY, INC. LEGISLATIVE ALERT FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – March 31, 2011 SB 234 – Open Carry/Vehicle Storage/Long Gun Statute Repeal Bill Stalled in Senate Judiciary Committee Members and friends, SB 234’s companion bill has expeditiously completed its journey through committee and is waiting to be heard on the House floor. For some undisclosed reason, SB 234 has been stalled in the Senate Judiciary Committee since March 16. Normally, the chairperson of the committee is responsible for...
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3/31/2011 9:06:00 AM
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HB 517 Overwhelmingly passes the House Judiciary Committee
HB 517, the house version of the Open Carry bill, passed by a 10 to 3 (2 abstaining). Next stop, the floor! From what I’ve read, the overriding contention was that the opposition could not cite a single case where OC was an issue in any other state where it is law. Even Rep Julian (D-Miami) voted in favor. MIAMI. That’s like the New York City of Florida. Now, the votes were as follows Y Baxley Y Glorioso Y Julien Y Pilon Y Tobia - Bullard Y Grant Y...
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3/24/2011 9:40:00 PM
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Gun owner goes to Apple store, openly carrying
Mass hysteria doesn’t break out That’s right – by the end of my extremely nerve racking foray the entire Apple Store was discussing my gun range, two guys had asked me about ARs and another about leagues. As the right person with the right attitude in the right setting I managed to take open carry and turn it into advertising for West Coast Armory. When you OC, you’re going to be an ambassador for the gun community. I have a LOT to write about this later, but suffice it to say...
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3/22/2011 12:53:22 PM
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Senate Bill 234 has cleared committee
3 to 2 voting. The level of misinformation presented was staggering. It’s amazing anything can ever get through with people twisting facts like that.
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3/14/2011 2:20:53 PM
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Florida isn’t the only one with Open Carry bills that need support
If you’re in Texas, please help get HB 2756 sponsored.
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3/14/2011 12:40:15 PM
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Senator Charles Dean needs to hear from you regarding SB234
Tomorrow, the vote to move SB234 out of committee appears to be hinging on Senator Dean. You may recall the non-committal response asking for his support a while back, and word is that he is still wobbly on this issue. Without Dean’s vote, this bill will die on the vine, so it is important to contact his office quickly and make sure he knows that Floridians support this bill and that his vote matters. Be polite. Be firm. But most of all, write or call.
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3/13/2011 6:41:36 PM
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Strong support in Florida Panhandle for Open Carry
Looks like a solid majority approve of SB 234 Two recent surveys of likely voters living in north Florida find strong support for Senate Bill 234. Voters surveyed in the north central Florida counties that comprise state senate district 3 favor the measure by a wide margin (58%-14%). The bill also draws approval by a larger margin (62%-12%) in the northwest Florida counties that make up state senate districts 2 & 4. Support among males came in around 78%. (PDF of the reports can be...
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3/12/2011 7:40:16 PM
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A bit of good news
Senate Bill 234 has been amended to remove the offensive provisions I discussed yesterday. 19 ...Any person in compliance with the terms of 20 such license may carry a concealed weapon or concealed firearm 21 notwithstanding the provisions of s. 790.01, or may carry openly 22 notwithstanding s. 790.053. The licensee must carry the license, 23 together with valid identification, at all times in which the 24 licensee is in actual possession of a concealed weapon...
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3/11/2011 6:14:47 PM
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Florida Open Carry Bill SB 234 - Stuck in Committee and Gutted
As most of you know, SB 234’s two primary elements, open carry and campus carry, have been gutted by committee amendments. These amendments were proposed, accepted, and integrated into the bill without public comment or discussion. On February 22, 2011, the father of Ashley Cowie, the FSU student who was killed in an off-campus incident, presented an impassioned plea against the campus carry element of SB 234. Ashley was killed by a student who was too young to get a concealed weapons/firearms...
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3/10/2011 4:30:31 PM
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A face for radio
And yet they still put me on TV From ABC Action News All in all, not a bad performance on my part although you see me shoot more than I speak. The shooting was interesting because I didn't think that was going to be part of the interview and only had 15+1 rounds on me, so I had to take my time. The reporter did a pretty good job editing it to make me look like I was shooting a bit more than I was (Yes, I shot high because I was only out at 7 yards). News being news, my 15 minutes of...
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3/2/2011 8:25:44 AM
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The accidental criminal
Well, I just committed a crime. My oldest is selling Girl Scout cookies at the local grocery store and her mother had forgotten her sash, so I picked up my youngest and headed over. Today it’s right at 80° so shorts and a light t-shirt were all that was required. Since we were out of bread, I went ahead and picked some up while I was there. Putting my youngest back in her car seat, I was required to lean over to get the belt buckle in. A light breeze came by and managed to push my shirt...
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2/26/2011 10:53:57 AM
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Olive branch offerings
Now, my last post was meant to be sarcasm and humor and not to be construed as a complete argument. I’ve already gotten wind that feathers have been ruffled, and it’s interesting to see that when I apply my snark to certain people, I’m lauded for it, but against others I’m called names you don’t use in front of drunken sailors in fear of harming their delicate sensibilities. Open Carry is a sore spot for me. I’m trying to get it legalized here in Florida while some in other states seem to be...
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2/20/2011 3:55:02 PM
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Superior Tactics–A soldiers report
I remember the pep talk Gunnery Sargent Alpo gave us like it was yesterday. We had been patrolling the dates and grains market in Diwaniyeh for weeks. After months of hard work, the coalition had finally convinced a large enough portion of the populace to fight back against thieves and insurgents and the resulting drop in attacks and crime bore the fruit of that long struggle. “Superior Tactics!” yelled Gunny Alpo. “We will use superior tactics to continue to keep the terrorists at bay!” Most...
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2/20/2011 11:46:51 AM
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My personal views on how I’ll handle myself
Right now, there’s every indication that SB234 will make it out of committee and so far it’s looking really good that the most comprehensive gun rights bill since Shall Issue passed in ‘86 will make its way to the Governor’s desk, which Governor Scott has already said he’d sign. Then, with that as law, Floridians will be able to carry more places as well as do so openly. I totally plan on OC’ing more than the average gun owner. For one, I’m an activist. Two, I believe it to be a better...
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2/18/2011 11:09:35 PM
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Fruits of your labor part II
Michigan firearm activists get city to reconsider its ban on open carry Village officials began researching the issue after they were approached by a gun rights organization that said the village's ordinance was not valid under state law, Stoker said. And the did so probably without nary a shotgun in any library!
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2/18/2011 4:14:11 PM
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Fruits of your labor
Since the saddle for the Drama Llama is so comfortable from getting rather broken in, let’s continue this ride. What you reap, you shall sow - From Say Uncle Library takes out restraining order against OC activists. And intends to sue. This is what happens when you’re a jerk. Now, I’m not 100% convinced that the complaints are true. As gun owners, we know we can be as polite as can be and still have people say “They were very threatening to others”, but honestly, when someone...
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2/18/2011 11:03:42 AM
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For those who say Open Carry isn’t good for anything
You’re wrong. You should see my hits!
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2/18/2011 9:33:08 AM
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Why this whole thing about shotguns in the library is important
When the anti-gunners bring up articles about a CCW holder getting in trouble with the law, they like to use it as ‘proof’ that CCW permits are a bad idea. We soundly mock them over this bit of stupidity. However, one young adult carries a shotgun into a library, something that is perfectly legal, and some gun owners are claiming that this single event is pretty much going to get the AWB reinstated and Heller overturned. Yeah, that’s a bit of hyperbole, but the following comments from over at...
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2/17/2011 8:53:07 PM
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The long, hard fight on Open Carry.
When it comes to activism, there is a fine line between getting your message across and being a complete jerk. Unfortunately that line is poorly defined and sometimes changes location right under your feet. You have to get your message out, in public, and you’re doing this specifically for those who do not share your point of view and in that sense, it’s practically guaranteed that somebody is going to get their feathers ruffled. However, to get your message across, often you have to risk it. ...
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2/17/2011 12:48:41 PM
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I have a much longer post about OC’ing but I wanted to bring this up
Sebastian talks about ‘going too far’ with OC’ing long arms UPDATE: OTOH, if the folks who are engaging in attention seeking behavior now need to up the ante to rifles, because pistols just don’t grab attention like they used to, maybe there is something to the OC theory. And I both hope and believe he is right. At my events, very few people actually notice the firearms. It took a guy with an AR pistol slung across his back to get us noticed one time. But in the comments, Sebastian says...
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2/16/2011 2:48:44 PM
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Ask Senator Bogdanoff to support Open Carry in Florida
In a recent news article, Senator Ellen Bogdanoff (R) spoke against Senate Bill 234 that would allow Floridians the choice as to if they openly carry their firearms or not by saying there is a way to solve the ‘printing’ issue without allowing Open Carry. I have written her a polite email and, if you are a Floridian, I ask that you do the same. My letter is as follows Dear Senator Bogdanoff, I am writing concerning your position on Open Carry outlined in the Sun Sentinel...
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1/31/2011 8:00:27 PM
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Forward progress
Wyoming senate passes Constitutional Carry. Still has to go through the House, but it looks good for Wyoming. We at Florida Carry are paying close attention to these events and will be following in the footsteps as time goes on. Our first goal is to get Open Carry legalized. While Constitutional Carry is a great goal, it wasn’t something that was politically feasible. A bill to demand Constitutional Carry would not have seen the light of day whereas the bills for OC and adding teeth to...
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1/25/2011 11:22:18 AM
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AZ shooting hasn’t affected determination to pass Open Carry in Fl
Unfortunately, the article I had the link to is pay only, but suffice it to say the push to get Open Carry in Florida is still on and lawmakers realize that the actions of an insane person have no bearing on the right to keep and bear arms. “I have no reservations about pushing the bill, we are one of four states that doesn’t have open carry. It’s the right thing to do,” said Senate Criminal Justice Chairman Greg Evers, R-Baker. “The only way to stop a perpetrator is with equal force.” ...
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1/15/2011 4:35:19 PM
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Open Carry Fishing Event for Tampa–Jan 8th, 2011
Today we had the Open Carry Fishing event. This time around, I was the event coordinator so it was my responsibility to contact the city attorney’s office and ensure the police were informed of our group meeting. The CA was thankful that our group was considerate enough to always call his office and he was more than happy to help us out. The event started at 10, and it was a nice day to fish. A bit of a chill in the air, but my jacket wound up on the ground (you can see it in the pic) because...
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1/8/2011 9:26:30 PM
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Open Carry fishing event is a go!
Just got off the phone with the City Attorney who is the liaison for the Police Department. He was more than happy to help coordinate with the local patrols to let them know we would have our Open Carry fishing event tomorrow. We spoke for a few minutes about the events. He was curious to know people’s reactions were which I explained were generally curious to borderline nonexistent. If you’re in Tampa, please feel free to drop by Ballast Point pier. We should be there from 10-Noon.
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1/7/2011 9:40:46 AM
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It’s not exactly a foregone conclusion
But yes, Open Carry is coming to Florida. Now, already I’m seeing the pushback from people complaining that SB-234 still requires licensure and that we shouldn’t license a right. I agree, but what exactly should we do? Unlicensed Open Carry was a dead issue. It would not see the light of day, period. It appears there are people who seem to be under the impression that you can just type of a list of your demands, hand it to a senator, and he or she will sign it and it becomes law pretty...
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1/3/2011 3:53:01 PM
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Moving forward
Senate Bill 234 has been introduced Firearms: Provides that a person in compliance with the terms of a concealed carry license may carry openly notwithstanding specified provisions. Allows the Division of Licensing of the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to take fingerprints from concealed carry license applicants. Limits a prohibition on carrying a concealed weapon or firearm into an elementary or secondary school facility, career center, or college or university facility to...
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12/11/2010 9:52:42 AM
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It’s a lot like this
Discussing Open Carry with a cohort of mine, I came up with this analogy
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11/16/2010 8:25:54 AM
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Splitting the issue
Now, I know what you’re thinking. You’re thinking that toast makes a great midnight snack, and I can’t disagree with you there. You might also be thinking “Good golly, Robb is talking a lot about open carry lately” and you’d be right there too! However, I see two problems that we seem to be arguing over and I want to clarify them here so that we don’t confuse the two issues, namely the legality of open carry and the benefits of. From what I’ve read in the comments, I don’t think there are too...
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11/12/2010 9:40:50 AM
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Pick 1,000 random people
And I guarantee you at least 1 of them will do something so monumentally stupid today that you wonder how the human race ever got past the whole wheel thing. Now, extrapolate that number to the millions, and you’re going to have a tremendous force of stupidity to deal with. The reason I am bringing this up is because of what appears to me to be the raison d'être of the pro gunner argument against open carry, namely that all it takes is one idiot to Open Carry in some fashion that totally...
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11/11/2010 4:22:21 PM
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Harming the movement
5 states at a time Having held five events over the weekend, Second Amendment advocates continue to promote changing laws in Florida to allow citizens to openly carry holstered handguns. Open carry was legal in Florida until 1987 when Janet Reno, then an assistant state attorney in South Florida, lobbied the Legislature to ban the practice save in some situations -- namely hunting, fishing and at firing ranges. Hat tip Snowflakes in Hell. Sebastian does not particularly care for OC as a...
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11/10/2010 3:33:09 PM
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Same tune, different key
From Say Uncle comes this story about UK Soldiers* Cadets not being able to carry their rifles because they might ‘upset’ some people. I seem to be having the same conversation about open carry with nominally ‘pro gun’ people. Don’t carry openly because you might upset people!!! OH NOES! Because there seems to be a black hole in some people’s understanding of my position, let me clarify it here – I want Open Carry to be legal here in Florida (and in every other state, but I can only work...
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11/8/2010 10:03:44 AM
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What happens when you Open Carry an AR-15 pistol while fishing?
Watch this ‘exciting’ video to find out Not on this video was the one elderly lady who I ran into immediate upon arrival. She was nearly in a panic on the phone with someone that some guy had a ‘machine gun’. I calmly explained that he was simply openly carrying a firearm which was legal if he was fishing. She stormed off in a huff saying “well, I don’t see why anyone needs a machine gun”. Other than that? A few looks an an inquiry or two, no panic and no blood in the water (minus any the...
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11/6/2010 8:03:55 PM
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Having a hard time finding white people to scare
Sean Caranna is the founder of Florida Open Carry. He’s got a television interview coming up where he is debating someone who is Pro-2A, but anti Open Carry. One slight problem A Tampa TV station wants to do a 4-minute point/counterpoint piece on open carry, but they are having a hard time finding someone who is pro 2A but anti open carry. All of the anti-2A people they have found have been nut balls! They called police agencies in the Tampa area but no one is anti open carry! ...
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11/4/2010 4:08:49 PM
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Manipulating polls through language
Here are three polls regarding Open Carry in Florida and how they are worded POLL: Guns in the open The "open carry" movement advocates are pushing legislation in Florida that would let people openly tote their guns. Do you support the move? Poll: Florida handgun owners Should Florida handgun owners be allowed to carry their weapons in the open? Should Floridians be allowed to carry weapons openly? No way. We have already given the gun lovers too much freedom...
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10/26/2010 1:38:22 PM
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Not scientific by any stretch of the imagination
But no, I don’t think whitey is scared by open carry. Now, caveats abound – Gun activists (like myself) find these polls easier than the non-interested, so we’re going to be a bit more likely to have a higher representation than we do in real life. However, even here in Florida where OC is illegal, you’re going to see that most people really wouldn’t care. I believe that if OC was permitted here, very few people would actually engage in it, especially in the beginning. I would, but that’s...
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Our own worst enemies
When it comes to Open Carry, I’m less concerned about the Brady Campaign and their pathetic mouthpieces like japete than I am about some pro-gun people and their disdain for the practice. Take for example this “I’m a gun owner but…” gentleman discussing the possibility of Open Carry here in the Sunshine state. Read the whole article, listen to the condescension as it just drips from the article. In fact, just the closing should tell you all you need to know about this guy So those...
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Does fishing for compliments count?
How about hunting for a good bargain? One of the grey areas of Open Carry here in Florida comes from 790.25 section 3h (h) A person engaged in fishing, camping, or lawful hunting or going to or returning from a fishing, camping, or lawful hunting expedition; There's a group of people who apparently set up OC fishing events. I need to find out more about that. I hate fishing, but I'm willing to walk around with some lures and a rod for a while!
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California still allowed to harm the 2A
From the news reports I've read, the ban on Open Carry in California is dead. This means millions of Californians can continue to harm the 2A Movement by openly displaying their firearms rather than stay in the closet, where it is most effective. Remember, you might think you're helping the Second Amendment by using it openly, but you're not. The only way to advance our cause is to automatically and reflexively compromise our principles! FDA Warning – This article may contain higher levels of...
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The racist roots of Concealed Carry
Amazing what a little historical perspective can add to the conversation Thinking about the history lesson that McDonald tells, it is also worth considering the extent to which gun-rights activism itself has been distorted by this history. If you look at Second Amendment-equivalents passed in state constitutions during the mid- and late-1800s, a bizarre number of them refer to concealed carry. Incidentally, this seems to be more true of states in the South than in other places; indeed, the...
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Quote of the day
For the pants wetters who fear Open Carry makes you a target of criminals Stan says: Not OC'ing because someone might target you for your gun is like not driving a Porsche because you might get carjacked. If you fundamentally alter your life just to suit the criminals then they've pretty much already won. That's about as succinct as it can be put.
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Anecdotal antidote
Before you get up in arms about this, remember this story. The dude who got robbed while OC'ing doesn't prove that OC'ers are targeted for their decision to openly carry any more than that one story proved open carry prevents Waffle House robberies. OC still needs to be the default and should be 100% legal everywhere. As a Floridian, my clothing options always include the possibility of accidental exposure / printing. With OC, this wouldn't be an issue. I have no issue with people who...
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Open Carry prevents a robbery
Anecdotal, true, but a powerful one at that Matt Brannan and J.P. Mitchell were dining in the Wafflehouse on Barrett Parkway at I-575 in Kennesaw at 4:45 in the morning recently when a scout for an armed robbery crew entered the restaurant to case it. At the time, Matt and J.P. thought he looked a little suspicious, as he was wandering around the small restaurant like he was looking for someone. Unknown to Matt and J.P., two cars full of armed robbers where parked behind the...
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Let the Anti-Open Carry people rejoice
They finally have a good story to pin on everyone why OC is such a terrible idea. Security guard today just tried to physically dis-arm me. Grabbed my right arm with his left hand and attempted to grab my pistol grip with his right. Elbow to the face and a back step rear kick/shin scrape to his right knee/shin...turned and hit him with a full body roundhouse punch. Knocked his a$$ out cold. Because the cops were called I can't give full details until everything is settled but it was at a...
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Linoge harms the Second Amendment cause
The fool went and open carried for the first time. Doesn't he know that his trip to Wal-Mart was a risky piece of political theater that sets us back decades? There's a time and place for open carry, and a simple shopping trip isn't one of them. You should only open carry where nobody will notice in order to avoid scaring anyone or getting negative media attention. Period. Because you may think you're helping the cause, but you're not. Or so I've been told.
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Who needs the Bradys
When your own side is firmly against you? My earlier post had nothing to do with Sebastian directly. He just happened to, like clockwork, chime in about open carrying in his usual manner. You see, to Sebastian, everything is political and a PR stunt. There is a time and place to open carry, to exercise your rights, but so far, Sebastian has yet to find a single instance where he thinks it is OK to do so. And trust me, he believes his view on the matter is the final word. For example I am...
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Open carry is fine, so long as you don't do it where people can see you
That's the gist of many gunnies I read, and it pisses me the hell off. I can't OC because even though I live in a place that has some of the least restrictive carry laws, OC is still verboten. However, if it was allowed tomorrow, I'd OC most of the time. One, I don't buy into the whole Super Mall Ninja "I'll keep it hidden so I can surprise my attacker" shit, nor do I think the chances of me not being able to keep my gun out of the fight are worth weighing (how many of you have ever...
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